Men in this thread proving the stereotype. Well done guys.

Loving how your focus is on false accusations rather than rape itself. Maybe if men learnt to stop raping it would solve the other problems too.

Compare false allegations to actual rape cases and they are a drop in the ocean. As serious as they are for more reasons than just somebody has their life ruined they are not where the energy should be.

Zersch Actually @ 21/12/2017 23:12

Darkus Black @ 21/12/2017 19:08 Compare false allegations to actual rape cases and they are a drop in the ocean. As serious as they are for more reasons than just somebody has their life ruined they are not where the energy should be. Yeah, most of us have agreed on this subject multiple times in the last few months.

Case closed then. Moving on.

Zersch Actually @ 21/12/2017 23:13

I was just celebrating what was easily the most fair post Chris has ever posted in here.

This is a person who gets their jollies from harassing women on the internet. Their opinion is barely worth the time it takes to scan past their post and reject it as stupid.

Chris25 @ 22/12/2017 0:07

Darkus Black @ 21/12/2017 18:17 Zersch Actually @ 21/12/2017 23:13 I was just celebrating what was easily the most fair post Chris has ever posted in here. This is a person who gets their jollies from harassing women on the internet. Their opinion is barely worth the time it takes to scan past their post and reject it as stupid. And yet, ive never been banned.

Irrelevant.

vladykins @ 22/12/2017 22:23

Nofo @ 21/12/2017 21:33 vladykins @ 21/12/2017 21:58 Chris25 @ 21/12/2017 17:49 vladykins @ 21/12/2017 17:18 I point you back to my previous post awhile ago about my ex-gf. She was crazy, but childhood molestation helped to cause it. Thats why you shouldnt date 10 year olds They tend to be more mature than your responses, so I don't see the problem. you're a father... Yes, and despite chris' dumb assertion, I didn't even date 10 year olds as a 10 year old. But dumb troll insult required dumb troll response. It's what he understands. That and everyone is going to fake accuse him of rape.

There is a reason they call him rapey Chris.

Igor @ 23/12/2017 4:05

Buffy @ 22/12/2017 22:59 Igor @ 21/12/2017 16:23 Buffy @ 21/12/2017 15:18 Igor @ 21/12/2017 16:08 I'll give you that there are a wide range of feminists. But what I've read in this thread from you and especially Buffy is trying to paint all men as sexual deviants/prone to sexually harass women. Like you have to teach men specifically not to or it's just their nature to do so And that shit is toxic yo Do you actually believe this garbage you spew out? LOL, in no way did I ever try to paint all men as sexual deviants or harassers. You really need to stop with your "always" and "all" shit. It's kindergarten logic. You just refuse to acknowledge facts and want to live in a fantasy land where all women are bitches with their claws out, gold-digging their way through life while occasionally stopping at the police station to falsely accuse men of rape. Since, it's sooo much more common for women to falsely accuse men than it is for women to not report their assaults. That's the world through Igor-colored glasses. But you did...both you and nofo have been championing shit like all men are rapists and more so that general idea. i.e. you have to teach men not to rape When I think of extremist feminists I think of you two specifically. I don't think all women are bitches with their claws out. When have I ever said that, I've dated a lot of lovely ladies who have not been crazy/golddiggers. But refusing to acknowledge that some percentage of women are indeed golddiggers is disingenuous. I think you lack perspective like Chris said, you try to see the good in people. I think it's you that lives in a fantasy land where all women have good intentions and all men have bad intentions. You ignore some ideas that make you feel uncomfortable and might not be PC to discuss because it makes you feel bad. I never stated false rape accusations are more common than real ones, again you're putting words in my mouth. I'm not even close to an extremist feminist lol. You have no idea because you don't know me and you have your set opinion of what you want to think/believe. I've never once said "all men" are anything but you just believe what you want. My biggest issue with you is your attitude and how you don't want to believe that there is a culture of disrespect of women - however that plays out whether it's harassing, just calling them bitches, raping, etc. There is obviously a scale of slight to extreme here. It doesn't mean ALL men or ALL people are guilty of this behavior, but you have continually shown disrespect so that is my opinion of you which you have failed to change. I'm basing it off what you have said in the past and your comments on the board. It's enough to see your perspective on feminism and your thoughts. But I don't think most guys are going around trying to disrespect women by raping them...and women call each other bitches all the time. Like saying "will there be bitches at the party?" is not meant to be disrespectful. Bitches here is a synonym for chics/ladies/girls etc. I don't disrespect women at all and never have. That's clearly just how you want to see me. You really want me to be the villain for some reason.

You are literally disrespecting women in this post right now you tosspot it's not acceptable to refer to women as bitches in the context you suggest. Feminism isn't about equality it is about the ideal that brings womens rights in line with men's. Using demeaning or derogatory terms in any way just shows that feminism is still needed in a big way because men like you insist that oppression doesn't exist. You probably think that racism doesn't exist either because a black person called a white person cracker that one time.

Igor @ 23/12/2017 4:11

Buffy @ 22/12/2017 23:09 lol this isn't about - "will there be bitches at the party"... and I don't personally know any women (or people) who say this but okay if you do lol. Thats how the kids talk these days. I'm just trying to show that not every time someone says bitch it's meant to be sexist or demean women

But it is. This is a prime example of subjugation through the use of language and bringing words into mainstream that have demeaning connotations and pass them off as ok. It's not your fault that you are just using the learned behaviours of the sexist people that came before you. But you can teach the people coming after you that it isn't ok.

Chris25 @ 23/12/2017 4:49

Snowflake poker @ 22/12/2017 23:44 Can we appropriately title this thread yet? It’s about so much more. Thats why I made the "Fun with sexual assault" thread but it got locked again :(

Yeah, because you actually think sexual assault is funny because you are rapey while trying to pass it off as being a light hearted comment on the internet. You are just a product of your upbringing and environment though. The poor women in your family, I feel for them.

Buffy @ 23/12/2017 5:33

Yeah, it is, but he'll never understand so this is pointless.

Frustrating but not pointless. He understands but doesn't want to acknowledge it. That is because it he did it throws his whole belief system into the fire. It's the same reason people cling to belief in God and the words of the Bible. It's easier to accept an internal truth than it is to challenge it and look at the potential that you could have been wrong your whole life.

Buffy @ 23/12/2017 5:47

Whoa. Belief in God is a different subject. (also, I noticed you capitalized both God and Bible so...)

Yeah. That's my phone's fault. Too early in the morning to catch that.

It is a different subject but it is the same psychology. Challenging beliefs is hard because once you accept it then you have to admit you were potentially wrong and people don't want to do that.

Which is why people fight to interpret bible passages To fit their ideology in the same way Igor interprets the language of young people to fit his belief system.

Done.

Oh wait. You said after christmas. Oh well onwards and upwards!

Chris25 @ 23/12/2017 6:38

yawn

Good troll, man. Intelligent, articulate and well thought out.

The uninitiated might think you have nothing to actually add but we know best!

Igor @ 24/12/2017 0:55

Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 0:31 Igor @ 23/12/2017 4:11 Buffy @ 22/12/2017 23:09 lol this isn't about - "will there be bitches at the party"... and I don't personally know any women (or people) who say this but okay if you do lol. Thats how the kids talk these days. I'm just trying to show that not every time someone says bitch it's meant to be sexist or demean women But it is. This is a prime example of subjugation through the use of language and bringing words into mainstream that have demeaning connotations and pass them off as ok. It's not your fault that you are just using the learned behaviours of the sexist people that came before you. But you can teach the people coming after you that it isn't ok. It's not subjugation. It's not like you're trying to say they are below you or that you're trying to say you're dominant to them. It's just slang. Words evolve their meaning over time and context is really everything. Bitch has even evolved to be a word of empowerment (i.e. she's a bad bitch, etc) In the context of going to a party a lot of guys are going to meet girls/talk to girls/try to hook up. Same reason a lot of the girls are going as well. What you said in your previous post is pretty ridiculous. I honestly don't think it's remotely demeaning. Nor am I trying to "take away women's rights". I'm not denying the existence of oppression. I think women and men should have equal rights and be treated equally. You're just trying to paint me as this racist/sexist dude to fit your story better.

I bet you think the word nigger us just slang too. You probably chat with your buddies and use it while saying they use it so it must be ok.

Just because you don't think it is demeaning doesn't make it not demeaning. The fact that you argue that it isn't, once again, shows that there is a deeper issue. Nobody is trying to make you for into anything. You are doing that yourself.

I wasn't comparing the words. I was comparing the idea.