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Post #1: 13th Jan 2015 11:33 AM 
Werewolf Supersaint?

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Post #2: 13th Jan 2015 12:24 PM 
Christian @ 13/1/2015 19:17
Also, the Vanillas. I get it. No special abilities makes the game less interesting for you. So there's got to be at least one of those people who opted to take a scum role instead. But it's all just speculation. We should definitely uses these lists as a guide, but I think they will be more helpful down the road.


I would pick any role over vanilla any day. It's a no brainer that people would choose any town role over vanilla. There could also be some people that took a scum vanilla role over a powerful town role just for playing the alignment they want. It's totally random. :/
 
   
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Post #3: 13th Jan 2015 12:31 PM 
Christian @ 13/1/2015 19:20
JJ @ 13/1/2015 12:16
Christian, your role seems like it was pretty powerful.


It was something about submitting a name each night and being told whether I suspected that person was an Alien. I didn't know if Aliens were the villains or if they were third party or what. But I would also scan as an Alien, so I opted to not take one. I already come off scummy enough as it is. lol


They sound like another mafia from reading the discarded role description.
 
   
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Post #4: 13th Jan 2015 2:21 PM 
PORL @ 13/1/2015 21:12
Vic @ 13/1/2015 14:28
I don't even know most of these roles. The one I discarded I had never heard of before.

Something to think about though: would the people that discarded a scum role (whether it be mafia or third party) only have the option to pick some other third party or mafia role? The reason I ask this is because it not, it could really mess up the balance if not. Like, if all of the people that discarded a mafia role picked a town role, would that mean we have very little scum to deal with?

I'm not sure KC would do this because it might be predictable, but I don't see how the balance could be there if this were the case.
It wouldn't affect the balance at all, because all the roles are listed anyway. It's not like learning what the roles do will make any difference to the game, they all seem to be typical mafia roles that you can look up in a wiki.

There are a multitude of reasons why people would choose to discard a role. A powerful role is not always "fun" if it means more responsibility/pressure. I think to read anything concrete into that at this point on would be silly.


Speaking of responsibility, I kind of find Trick's decision douchy to discard Enabler...
 
   
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Post #5: 13th Jan 2015 2:34 PM 
JJ @ 13/1/2015 21:24
Kru @ 13/1/2015 14:21
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Vic @ 13/1/2015 14:28
I don't even know most of these roles. The one I discarded I had never heard of before.

Something to think about though: would the people that discarded a scum role (whether it be mafia or third party) only have the option to pick some other third party or mafia role? The reason I ask this is because it not, it could really mess up the balance if not. Like, if all of the people that discarded a mafia role picked a town role, would that mean we have very little scum to deal with?

I'm not sure KC would do this because it might be predictable, but I don't see how the balance could be there if this were the case.
It wouldn't affect the balance at all, because all the roles are listed anyway. It's not like learning what the roles do will make any difference to the game, they all seem to be typical mafia roles that you can look up in a wiki.

There are a multitude of reasons why people would choose to discard a role. A powerful role is not always "fun" if it means more responsibility/pressure. I think to read anything concrete into that at this point on would be silly.


Speaking of responsibility, I kind of find Trick's decision douchy to discard Enabler...


Why? Having that role means if Tricks is killed, whatever role he was enabling is disabled. I think enabler is a town hampering role.


And not existing means the person or people with the enabled roles become automatic vanilla(s). I would choose Enabler over anything if I wanted to be town.
 
   
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Post #6: 13th Jan 2015 2:40 PM 
[QUOTE=dr@13/1/2015 21:35][QUOTE=Kru@13/1/2015 14:34][QUOTE=JJ@13/1/2015 21:24][QUOTE=Kru@13/1/2015 14:21]
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QUOTE PYRAMID

How do you know that?


I don't know, I believe so, in typical mafia logic, no enabler = affected roles no working.
 
   
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Post #7: 13th Jan 2015 2:44 PM 
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Kru @ 13/1/2015 15:34
QUOTE PYRAMID

I would choose anything but Vanilla over Enabler.


I would too if I know that Enabler only affects only one person's role.
 
   
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Post #8: 13th Jan 2015 2:50 PM 
I think we should have Tricks have a say about what he found out in the role description before we trek more into this.
 
   
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Post #9: 13th Jan 2015 3:06 PM 
Herm @ 13/1/2015 21:50
I suspect that these pyramid quotes have something to do with a Pharaoh role.


And if we lynch him, he will become a mummy and he will kill us with his locust storm. :O
 
   
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Post #10: 13th Jan 2015 7:11 PM 
Shadow @ 14/1/2015 0:09
Moose @ 13/1/2015 11:47
Christian @ 13/1/2015 11:44
I'm disappointed at the people who gave up Town Vanilla. lol

This is an interesting setup. There's lots to be looked at on Day 1, but at this point, it's all still going to be speculation. Why would someone give up a powerful role? Was their second option a better one? I don't think we should automatically assume that because someone gave up a mafia role, that they don't have another mafia role, and same for Townies or Werewolfs or Aliens, and whatever other factions are in there.


My role is still pretty bland. Damn that randomization!


Still pretty bland
Then says both were town vanilla. The post I quoted made it seem like it was still different but sucked

I think this is her way of putting up a defense for the future. I think she is scum

##lynch moose


Moose @ 13/1/2015 23:55
Herm @ 13/1/2015 16:35
Hm, what I took away from schrauben's calculations is that half the people who discarded town roles did so in favor of better town roles while the other half chose scum roles. Same goes for people who discarded scum roles.



And then there's me, who got the same role drawn twice.
(:



Her claim seems too convenient, her response to Christian sounds forced, not to mention her scummy posting and her quickness to lynch ahoda.

##Lynch: Moose
 
   
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Post #11: 13th Jan 2015 7:35 PM 
OS ESTOY VIGILANDO SR. CURTIS Y SR. KIWI

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Post #12: 14th Jan 2015 5:48 AM 
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3. What I found strangest about the discarded roles was that Korr of all people got rid of ALIEN BLOODSUCKER. That's like, a tailormade role for him. It makes me think he went with something even worse, like mafia or SK. Not enough to lynch him over on D1, but it's got me p wary


It sounded cool, but what it did was lame, it turns a player into a Tree Stump. boring...
 
   
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Post #13: 14th Jan 2015 5:51 AM 
Ari @ 14/1/2015 11:37
PORL @ 14/1/2015 9:07
##Lynch: Tricks

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You where very dismissive of looking into what people have discarded, which I agree partly with but it can be used to an extent.

People are obviously going to pick the role they think would be the most fun to play and is more valued by them, seeing as this is a game. From my experience, third party roles are pretty fun to play. I dont think I have ever seen or heard someone complain that playing third party was boring, people usually dont get to do that very often as there are only 1-2 in each game. F.x. I have played this game for a relatively long time and I only think ive received a third party role 2-3 times, so for me to throw a third party role down the drain I would have to have a pretty solid alternative.

With that in mind, for people to discard a third party role they would have to have a better or a more valued role (by themselves) to pick.

Now, you discarded a supposed third party role (Alien doesnt sound very townie) and you downplaying the discard list sounds very much like you are trying to hide that you picked a better scum role. Thats the vibe that I am getting from you.


Alien isn't townie, from the looks of it, it looks like a weaker mafia faction. Third party roles may be fun but they tend to be harder to win with though.


 
   
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Post #14: 14th Jan 2015 7:16 AM 
Can you change the forum pic to something more colorful? Probably give it a tint of blue or red?
 
   
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Post #15: 14th Jan 2015 8:18 AM 
A dolphin swam up to me and told me that Kiwi is scum. /jokin
 
   
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