Prepping for a big bank meeting (have to actually wear my suit for once) so won't be back until later in the day.

Wasn't happy to come back to the sudden Maddie switch- we've left the journalist question unanswered (especially since part of the reason you lynched her was because you thought the journalist sounded like her). Welcome to GateGate2: Zach edition.

I'm pretty sure most of scum are laying low right now. brian wouldn't surprise me amongst the lurkers (I wasn't surprised on DR either with her lurking). Sadly, I also feel Sock may be scum again this game. Stephen has also been pinging my scumdar.

My town feelings right now lean badger, tib, angi, and primate. Merc I keep going back and forth on scum/town.

Everyone else? You are still a mystery to me for now.

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59

I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill. I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.

Since a mafia tracker flipped and there could be a mafia watcher involved, I am very against this idea.

Based on what you claimed, mafia get an additional free night either way. If you are lying and mafia, exposing our vig is not a good idea. If you are what you say, mafia get two nights either way, so i see no advantage in waiting until night.

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:07

vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:55 Based on what you claimed, mafia get an additional free night either way. If you are lying and mafia, exposing our vig is not a good idea. If you are what you say, mafia get two nights either way, so i see no advantage in waiting until night. Mafia gets a free additional night either way, yes, but if we lynch scum today it'll at least somewhat offset the extra day they get. Lynching me today 100% results in a mislynch and scum getting an extra night. The only way lynching me could be advantageous is that it allows the vig to kill someone else, but there's no guarantee he hits scum. Also I don't see how the vig killing me exposes him??

Mafia tracker flipped. You dismissing the possibility of mafia watcher because you feel it is OP seems scummy to me. We've lost even night vig and if mafia has watcher, they'll know odd night vig *and* if you are truly princess, they'll have another night to freely take him out without town having the ability to counter it. Vig is a danger to mafia so they would love an obvious opportunity to spot him or her.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 14:45

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:36 Quote With the amount of mental gymnastics Merc is doing to try and get this reporter role to be distrusted (and yesterday he tried to directly lynch them), I'm thinking he may have been on that Chaos team with Spin or something. Maybe they are a group of lynchers whose targets were all different? And that is how they create chaos? Is it possible that the lynchers only know what roles they have to lynch instead of players? If so this theory makes a lot of sense It's definitely possible. In Spin's flip, it says he has an action but that it's redacted (which I assume means we learn about it at the end of the game?). This information was probably withheld from us for balance purposes, which makes me think they could have contained information pertaining to certain roles existing in the game. Hosts probably didn't want to repeat the scenario where a player gets outed by role information that pops up as hidden text in a flip. Perhaps each of them has a certain role that they lynch and their night action involves searching for that person? If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a combination of mafia and town targets.

Damn, this is the type of crazy theory I normally come up with. Color me impressed. :)

The purple threw me off for a minute for Curtis- until I realized that he is technically unknown. I have just assumed he is town, considering the janitor flip, but I suppose he could have been SK or third party/Chaos team or even cult.

Sock has been off every majority so far and was on Miko Day 3 which looks bad to me.

I don't remember if I included Miko on my "town" list earlier but he should be there for obvious reasons.

Frankly, I agree with your rationale, but I agreed with it yesterday too, which is why I left my vote there, despite the last minute Maddie run up.

Given I'll be leaving in an hour or so, unless other info comes through, my vote will sit there again.

But given what I've seen, I could be convinced to vote Stephen, Sock, Merc, or brian.

Primate @ 25/5/2017 15:59

Miko is pretty high on my scum list, too. He claimed info on D2 or 3 not a peep since, and is still alive.

Not mine- like you, he's softclaimed pretty aggressively without a CC, so I'm pretty convinced he's town.

BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 16:03

Primate @ 25/5/2017 15:55 vladykins @ 25/5/2017 13:50 BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 14:45 ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:36 Quote With the amount of mental gymnastics Merc is doing to try and get this reporter role to be distrusted (and yesterday he tried to directly lynch them), I'm thinking he may have been on that Chaos team with Spin or something. Maybe they are a group of lynchers whose targets were all different? And that is how they create chaos? Is it possible that the lynchers only know what roles they have to lynch instead of players? If so this theory makes a lot of sense It's definitely possible. In Spin's flip, it says he has an action but that it's redacted (which I assume means we learn about it at the end of the game?). This information was probably withheld from us for balance purposes, which makes me think they could have contained information pertaining to certain roles existing in the game. Hosts probably didn't want to repeat the scenario where a player gets outed by role information that pops up as hidden text in a flip. Perhaps each of them has a certain role that they lynch and their night action involves searching for that person? If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a combination of mafia and town targets. Damn, this is the type of crazy theory I normally come up with. Color me impressed. :) I actually thought you wrote that. I was also the one who came up with the 'Vlady's getting paid for his jokes' theory in PBS mafia. So my theories don't always really hit the mark. But no harm in trying, lol.

That would have been fantastic, but alas, it wasn't so.

While the "silence a strong player" theory is nice, they silenced me and I've been shitting the bed the past few games. :rofl:

And given I'm prepping to head home, I'm going to

##lynch zach