Maddie @ 19/7/2017 22:25

Call me an SJW snowflake but I don't really think it's a chill idea to have two white dudes basically writing slavery fan fiction.

You're a brainwashed SJW.

It would make more sense that someone with first hand experience of being a slaver would write it, it's still practiced by most if not all other colored people than white, mostly asian I think.

The premise seems stupid, surely pressure from the rest of the western world would make the U.S. stop.

Maddie @ 19/7/2017 23:02

Also Merc are you saying that a slave in Bangladesh should write a script about the American Confederacy? lol that's how I interpreted your post.

No I was trying to point out how stupid it is to think that it's not "chill" for a white person to write about slavery because they might have ancestors who died a 100 years ago who were slavers.

Why does the fact that they are white matter? There are a lot of black people who have the same ancestors? There are people who immigrated to the US that have/had slaves?

far eastern girl in suicide crisis @ 19/7/2017 23:31

And Merc, a real problem is the fact that this series could easily be seen as making entertainment off of the pain of black people. And the timing of this is sketch too. Look at the political climate, recent events. It's scary to think how this might be marketed.

How are any historical movies/shows different?

far eastern girl in suicide crisis @ 19/7/2017 23:29

I think if it were other showrunners I'd be more optimistic, these guys added rape to make GOT darker. I don't think they're capable of the sensitivity this needs.

When?

There's so much rape in ASOIAF.

Maddie @ 19/7/2017 23:37

Mercator @ 19/7/2017 23:27 Maddie @ 19/7/2017 23:02 Also Merc are you saying that a slave in Bangladesh should write a script about the American Confederacy? lol that's how I interpreted your post. No I was trying to point out how stupid it is to think that it's not "chill" for a white person to write about slavery because they might have ancestors who died a 100 years ago who were slavers. Why does the fact that they are white matter? There are a lot of black people who have the same ancestors? There are people who immigrated to the US that have/had slaves? First of all, why are you calling me stupid? Secondly, black people in America are still very much still experiencing the after effects of slavery and are not treated entirely like first class citizens. I don't see a show written by white men or from ancestors of slavers to be writing this dystopia. Tbh I wouldn't expect you to fully understand this not growing up here or learning about Reconstruction and all of that growing up in school, but it's just not chill in a society that has not moved on from slavery yet. We don't need to give another voice to the white man like this. The fact that they are white matters a lot. If there was a black co-writer, and not these GoT dudes, I'd maybe look at this a bit differently, but it's still a really terrible idea.

I'm not saying you're stupid, I'm saying you wrote something stupid, there's a huge difference.
Wise people rarely say stupid stuff, smart people do all the time.

America needs to move on and this line of thinking is the opposite, despite what your teachers told you to think.

far eastern girl in suicide crisis @ 19/7/2017 23:37

Mercator @ 20/7/2017 2:35 far eastern girl in suicide crisis @ 19/7/2017 23:29 I think if it were other showrunners I'd be more optimistic, these guys added rape to make GOT darker. I don't think they're capable of the sensitivity this needs. When? There's so much rape in ASOIAF. Don't pretend they didn't add shit.

If you're talking about the Cersei/Jamie scene it wasn't added by the writers, the director didn't mean to make it seem non-consensual nor did the actors.

It's a very sensitive issue here, I agree, and you're right that if handled poorly this show could be a huge disaster.

I still think that saying stuff like that white people can't write a show like that just adds fuel to the flames.