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Post #1: 24th May 2017 9:13 PM 
Stephen @ 24/5/2017 19:03
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I didn't arrive until after the Maddie train.

So it happened because of a post Stephen made?

I feel like we should look at the players pushing for that lynch.

I want to address this.

I unlynched Zach and said I wouldn't be back until 8:30 pm that evening to make an informed decision so of course I'm going to vote in the last few minutes? Like, I have to re-read everything and also catch up. At that time I read the discussion and decided Zach made the most sense to me as to who to vote because from what I read, the princess role only comes into play if the player is lynched -- not killed, which contradicts what Zach said. From there, the Maddie bandwagon happened and I was caught in the crossfires because of circumstance. I don't know if I inadvertently got Maddie lynched, or people were looking for an excuse to make that last minute switch.


Read the first line of the site you quoted (:
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Post #2: 24th May 2017 9:15 PM 
"The following message had been broadcast to the town:
That was just horrible. What are you people even doing here?"

Am I really the only one that thinks that a town journalist with an investigative power wouldn't have said something else, cleared some town or accused someone else by now?
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Post #3: 25th May 2017 1:32 PM 
BadgerMcBeaver @ 24/5/2017 22:38
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"The following message had been broadcast to the town:
That was just horrible. What are you people even doing here?"

Am I really the only one that thinks that a town journalist with an investigative power wouldn't have said something else, cleared some town or accused someone else by now?

This is the ridiculous. How can you of all people be complaining about a lack of investigation results when not only did they announce scum in the previous day, but you ignored that information and instead went for the person you had a hunch was sending the message in the first place.

This is the second time that you've come off as attempting to bait the person into outing themselves, which is also super scummy.

My avatar has never been more appropriate.

I didn't ignore it, I did a 180 on it after I realized it wasn't from the person I originally thought it was from, and instead thought it was from who I thought was one of the scummiest people so far.

How can you still think it's legit?
That message today just reeks of scum, not a town journalist?
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Post #4: 25th May 2017 6:20 PM 
Miko @ 25/5/2017 16:07
So the entire reason why I initially put Merc off my scum list was because he didn't go anywhere on N2, but the more I'm reading into it I'm starting to feel like he may be GF or Ninja. He hasn't looked good since, and him basically orchestrating the Maddie lynch based off of something she 'may say' was weird and not very town-like.

I've been sticking up for him considering I knew it was likely he was town after N2. But every day I just get more weary. It sucks because I want to trust him but I can't.

It's a thing she literally says ya know, and I told her the day was ending (:

I had a theory Ahoda tracked Zach and that he saw him visit Lamps, but it seems he tracked Farlig and Maddie.
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Post #5: 25th May 2017 7:09 PM 
BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 16:50
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So the entire reason why I initially put Merc off my scum list was because he didn't go anywhere on N2, but the more I'm reading into it I'm starting to feel like he may be GF or Ninja. He hasn't looked good since, and him basically orchestrating the Maddie lynch based off of something she 'may say' was weird and not very town-like.

I've been sticking up for him considering I knew it was likely he was town after N2. But every day I just get more weary. It sucks because I want to trust him but I can't.

It's a thing she literally says ya know, and I told her the day was ending (:

I had a theory Ahoda tracked Zach and that he saw him visit Lamps, but it seems he tracked Farlig and Maddie.

If you had suspicions that Maddie was writing the messages, it should have made you LESS inclined to lynch her, not more. We had a way to verify the role's information, and it is an EXTREMELY strong role if it's in the hands of town.

More importantly, the last thing you want to do with a role like that is OUT the person if you have a suspicion of who they are - and you directly attempted to do that when you cast your vote yesterday. In addition to the two other times when you appear to have been baiting the person to come forward.

I still think the right vote is Zach but you are making it extremely difficult not to lynch you right now.

No it made me more inclined because I think he is telling the truth about his claim.

The claim is so unusual I can hardly believe it's not the truth, and lynching him would be a mistake, despite your faulty logic that we should do it sooner than later (Since if we do it sooner the town vs scum ratio would probably tilt a fair amount, letting scum more easily control the narrative, that is if he is the princess).
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Post #6: 25th May 2017 7:11 PM 
Stephen @ 25/5/2017 17:08
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Hey guys, I'm going to be in and out for the next couple of hours. I'm fully expecting to be lynched today, but hope that you all go after someone else. I think we can hit scum out of the "main suspects" pushed forward today.

I'm going to put my vote on Stephen. Mostly everyone who has wagon'd me in the past two days has had pretty good logic (even if I disagree) except for him, so I think he's most likely to be the main scum pusher.

##lynch stephen

I think merc is likely third party so wouldn't mind lynching him as well.

But if you guys end up voting me then I understand and wish you all luck! Town's got this!

How does my logic differ from anyone else's? I mean I get why you would think that because a lot of it had to do with the role, but as I cleared up earlier it's a novice mistake and whether you're going to believe it or not, that's not my call. What I do know is regardless of everything, there's three kills last night and of which you weren't killed:

- Thisisbad bus drivers Badger and Rose. Rose's role flip talks about the fractional kill and the wiping of a role description, which I'm assuming was used on Curtis as he showed up with no role. This means that she did not have her fractional kill this round. I've looked up bus driving (here we go again) and correct me if I'm wrong. Can it be possible that the mafia killed Badger, and due to the bus driving it didn't go through as Badger and Rose's actions were flipped for the night. If this is the case, why the hell did they not kill you if you were the princess?


If you look at today, the obvious answer is to be able to lynch him today.
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Post #7: 25th May 2017 7:15 PM 
Miko, do you have any results for us?
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Post #8: 25th May 2017 7:30 PM 
BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 17:21
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Miko @ 25/5/2017 16:07
So the entire reason why I initially put Merc off my scum list was because he didn't go anywhere on N2, but the more I'm reading into it I'm starting to feel like he may be GF or Ninja. He hasn't looked good since, and him basically orchestrating the Maddie lynch based off of something she 'may say' was weird and not very town-like.

I've been sticking up for him considering I knew it was likely he was town after N2. But every day I just get more weary. It sucks because I want to trust him but I can't.

It's a thing she literally says ya know, and I told her the day was ending (:

I had a theory Ahoda tracked Zach and that he saw him visit Lamps, but it seems he tracked Farlig and Maddie.

If you had suspicions that Maddie was writing the messages, it should have made you LESS inclined to lynch her, not more. We had a way to verify the role's information, and it is an EXTREMELY strong role if it's in the hands of town.

More importantly, the last thing you want to do with a role like that is OUT the person if you have a suspicion of who they are - and you directly attempted to do that when you cast your vote yesterday. In addition to the two other times when you appear to have been baiting the person to come forward.

I still think the right vote is Zach but you are making it extremely difficult not to lynch you right now.

No it made me more inclined because I think he is telling the truth about his claim.

The claim is so unusual I can hardly believe it's not the truth, and lynching him would be a mistake, despite your faulty logic that we should do it sooner than later (Since if we do it sooner the town vs scum ratio would probably tilt a fair amount, letting scum more easily control the narrative, that is if he is the princess).

Can you explain again why the logic is faulty? Unclear on what you're getting at.

The worst case scenario is he's town princess and at least 4 town die in the two nights, that would leave 12 players left and then probably more than half the players left are scum, given that Chaos Team and Mafia started with close to equal numbers, probably around 6?, then town's chances of winning are slim to none.
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Post #9: 25th May 2017 7:35 PM 
BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 17:33
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Miko @ 25/5/2017 16:07
So the entire reason why I initially put Merc off my scum list was because he didn't go anywhere on N2, but the more I'm reading into it I'm starting to feel like he may be GF or Ninja. He hasn't looked good since, and him basically orchestrating the Maddie lynch based off of something she 'may say' was weird and not very town-like.

I've been sticking up for him considering I knew it was likely he was town after N2. But every day I just get more weary. It sucks because I want to trust him but I can't.

It's a thing she literally says ya know, and I told her the day was ending (:

I had a theory Ahoda tracked Zach and that he saw him visit Lamps, but it seems he tracked Farlig and Maddie.

If you had suspicions that Maddie was writing the messages, it should have made you LESS inclined to lynch her, not more. We had a way to verify the role's information, and it is an EXTREMELY strong role if it's in the hands of town.

More importantly, the last thing you want to do with a role like that is OUT the person if you have a suspicion of who they are - and you directly attempted to do that when you cast your vote yesterday. In addition to the two other times when you appear to have been baiting the person to come forward.

I still think the right vote is Zach but you are making it extremely difficult not to lynch you right now.

No it made me more inclined because I think he is telling the truth about his claim.

The claim is so unusual I can hardly believe it's not the truth, and lynching him would be a mistake, despite your faulty logic that we should do it sooner than later (Since if we do it sooner the town vs scum ratio would probably tilt a fair amount, letting scum more easily control the narrative, that is if he is the princess).

Can you explain again why the logic is faulty? Unclear on what you're getting at.

The worst case scenario is he's town princess and at least 4 town die in the two nights, that would leave 12 players left and then probably more than half the players left are scum, given that Chaos Team and Mafia started with close to equal numbers, probably around 6?, then town's chances of winning are slim to none.

You really think 12 of 29 were scum? That's like 40% of the game starting as scum.

Well if there are 2 close to equal factions that should be trying to fuck each other it makes sense, yeah.
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Post #10: 25th May 2017 7:39 PM 
Hern @ 25/5/2017 17:37
Chaos team has to have started with two, it's in Spin's role flavor.

There's probably three mafia left, or something.

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Post #11: 25th May 2017 7:45 PM 
Hern @ 25/5/2017 17:44
There's no way there's two teams of six out there lol.

That's how I would have it :P

Was it in the redacted bit Herm?
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Post #12: 25th May 2017 7:58 PM 
BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 17:53
If I was going for who is pinging the scumdar the hardest it would be Merc.

But I still think that investigative claim on Zach is worth checking out? We learn a lot from his flip, and he's going to die at some point in time.

I really don't like it when you talk about him like he's town princess.
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Post #13: 25th May 2017 8:02 PM 
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If I was going for who is pinging the scumdar the hardest it would be Merc.

But I still think that investigative claim on Zach is worth checking out? We learn a lot from his flip, and he's going to die at some point in time.

I really don't like it when you talk about him like he's town princess.

I didn't. Saying we learn from his flip indicates that I don't fully buy it.

"and he's going to die at some point in time."

That's you saying that he is the princess and mafia will kill him if we don't lynch him?
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