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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #1: 27th Aug 2016 8:58 PM | |
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In before 'Why Rose?'
Well, Drake's flip forced to me reevaluate all my reads this game. I no longer think she is scum. |
Why did you think she's scum again?
She's like my #1 town read | |
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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #2: 27th Aug 2016 9:38 PM | |
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Shiiit, I do feel bad for Drake. Here he was, just some guy playing his first game, and then this asshole comes out of nowhere and pursues him relentlessly due to a single post.
I am sorry Drake!
##Lynch Oddilus
I guess the Mafia Vote Stealer theory is worth testing
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There's only one hero that I can think of that's a double voter, and that hero's other abilities wouldn't affect votes at all.
In fact I can't think of any hero who's abilities would vote steal.
And I don't get this vote stealer theory? Lamps cancelled someones vote abilities, where's a case of vote stealing?
However, it would be fairly easy for Mafia I think to kill Oddilus if they wanted, he's either a shit townie not worthy of killing or mafia.
Since Mafia doublevoter would be OP and by the fact that he's new I'm leaning towards the former. | |
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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #3: 27th Aug 2016 9:44 PM | |
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Okay, so...first of all, someone triggered an Ult? Clearly, McCree is Scum. |
Why clearly? Could just be a terrible read by a townie? |
Admittedly, it's more of an assumption than anything else, but I'm making it based on math. Since we keep lynching Townies (which would only give us 5 points/day), and it seems like most night actions only grant about 10 points/night, only Mafia would've earned enough points (by being on the Townie lynches) to get to the needed 100 by now. |
If you lynch someone who doesn't get lynched you get 10 points though, add the passive 5 points and 10 points for a night action (which some seem to be able to get 15 if they meet a condition, like Vern's), that's 25 points per round. I had thought more people would have gotten their ults now.
You can probably go through votes and figure out who McCree is, I CBF. | |
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Mercator
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| Post #4: 28th Aug 2016 1:09 AM | |
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I have written a basic java program to calculate ults. It's less useful than a spreadsheet and I don't know how to upload it. This is a good use of my time. |
Does it use 3D graphics? | |
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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #5: 28th Aug 2016 1:27 AM | |
I'm gonna go ahead and
##Lynch: im317
Been getting scum vibes from him, he seems flipfloppy and doesn't really reason his lynch votes.
Also not buying that the same person would attack him every single night, seems like something scum would say to look like mafia is targeting them. | |
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| Post #6: 28th Aug 2016 1:31 AM | |
Oh and thanks Rose for asking yesterday hours before anyone else if I was silenced, I asked Boc if I could like or dislike posts, because I hate when people do that in Mafia, it's fucking communicating, and he said "nope". | |
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| Post #7: 28th Aug 2016 4:11 AM | |
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I'd REALLY rather we not rush into a Wikey lynch. I was leaning scum yesterday but Boc's screw up with my update for last night is selling his claim a bit, and like I said yesterday, I kinda feel like he's just been a useful idiot because he wasn't paying attention.
We are at 12 left, and only one mafia down. Every day we think we've found the CLEAR SCUM, and every day we've been wrong. We can't afford to be wrong again. If the mafia started with 6, we're in a VERY bad spot where they can potentially control the day phases soon, and chances are good most if not all of them have their ults unlocked. Tonight's probably going to be a blood bath. We need to lynch scum today, which means we NEED to discuss this carefully and closely.
Maybe we should even discuss actions we've taken so far this game and our reasoning behind it. We can't just pile onto the day's scummiest character again. |
Yeah thanks to a Boc fuckup we know 100% that either Wikey is town or both of you are scum.
And I doubt you are scum. | |
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Mercator
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| Post #8: 28th Aug 2016 4:12 AM | |
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I'd REALLY rather we not rush into a Wikey lynch. I was leaning scum yesterday but Boc's screw up with my update for last night is selling his claim a bit, and like I said yesterday, I kinda feel like he's just been a useful idiot because he wasn't paying attention.
We are at 12 left, and only one mafia down. Every day we think we've found the CLEAR SCUM, and every day we've been wrong. We can't afford to be wrong again. If the mafia started with 6, we're in a VERY bad spot where they can potentially control the day phases soon, and chances are good most if not all of them have their ults unlocked. Tonight's probably going to be a blood bath. We need to lynch scum today, which means we NEED to discuss this carefully and closely.
Maybe we should even discuss actions we've taken so far this game and our reasoning behind it. We can't just pile onto the day's scummiest character again. |
Yeah thanks to a Boc fuckup we know 100% that either Wikey is town or both of you are scum.
And I doubt you are scum. |
Well not 100%, but still we can be pretty sure. | |
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| Post #9: 28th Aug 2016 4:43 AM | |
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This means Wikey Merc and Brian cannot be McCree
Curtis, Odd, Vladdy, and I can all be McCree and still be town.
I am not McCree. I am better than a shitty cowboy.
The fact that McCree apparently attacked Vern means McCree is probably scum, but people were coming around on him possibly being scummy so it's still POSSIBLE he was town. |
In game McCree can shoot the entire enemy team with his ult (6 people, 6 shooter), Flavor says BANG 4 times so I'm guessing he shot 4 people, if I had 4 bullets I'd probably shoot Vernon just because I could (:
He also has a flashbang which stuns, so a roleblock or a silence. Pretty sure McCree is scum.
Obligatory McCree meme:
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Mercator
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| Post #10: 28th Aug 2016 4:59 AM | |
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Merc, what hero do you think would fit the doublevoter?
And, without giving too much away, could you speculate on what their other abilities might be, and whether those abilities might fit scum or town? |
Well an argument for scum not having killed him yet is that they don't know what hero he is (: which means none of them or few are scum if he's town
Not sure if I should say who he is, but no his abilities don't really fit scum I think.
Out of the players alive who play Overwatch (that I remember, please update if you can):
1. Curtis
7. Oddilus
10. itsbrianyay
20. Mercator
4. Wikey
8. Helios
12. thisisbad
14. Dadd
15. dr
16. Timmah
18. Vladykins
22. im317 | |
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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #11: 28th Aug 2016 10:58 AM | |
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I'll try to check in, but honestly I can see today being busy with family.
I'm still looking at the lynch trains. I think Helios still in my first read. His discounting of im317 is odd, isn't there DoT attacks? And you think scum would announce over 5 days they were attacked?
Don't buy it
Wikey has been borderline to me, and his recent activity makes him seem more town.
I've not been around tib? Irony
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What's a DoT attack? |
Damage over Time.
There are only two heroes with DoT's and they're both dead, and didn't have DoT's anyways. | |
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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #12: 28th Aug 2016 11:54 AM | |
Haven't slept yet... going to bed now, not sure if I'll be back before so....
##Unlynch
##Lynch: Helios
After reading through his posts, I agree with DR, Helios is not playing like town Helios, and we pretty much have to be right today. | |
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| Post #13: 28th Aug 2016 12:03 PM | |
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I'm gonna go ahead and
##Lynch: im317
Been getting scum vibes from him, he seems flipfloppy and doesn't really reason his lynch votes.
Also not buying that the same person would attack him every single night, seems like something scum would say to look like mafia is targeting them. |
really? you think scum would claim being attacked the way i have? a number of people have questioned me specifically because of these multiple attacks, and/or the attacks being for the same amount of damage.
i think we need to get today right so im going to add some info i was reluctant to before. the attacks have been for 110 damage each. with Drake flipping as having a 110 attack but my still getting hit for 110 after he died i have to consider the possibility that the attacks have not all been by the same person. |
If it's true, it's probably still the same person, and boy is he determined. | |
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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #14: 28th Aug 2016 2:58 PM | |
RIP | |
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Mercator
The Last Snowcrab
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| Post #15: 28th Aug 2016 3:32 PM | |
So... who wants to play some real Overwatch? | |
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