I didn't claim Seer, and I survived a night-kill. That theory makes no sense. I'm retired werewolf hunter. I survive attacks from the werewolf faction only.

I'm not sure where to go with this, but it's late so I don't want to toss a vote out. It's gonna be very easy for any remaining faction to bandwagon their desired target today so it's best we avoid heavy lynching until the day is through and we can discuss a little more in depth.

Considering the number of night kills, there are still multiple factions at play, so everybody benefits from this anyway.

So we have two factional kills in play? Possible that there's a serial killer and only one faction left.

No faction has majority, or they'd auto-win.

Jamie is hardly a threat at all, which leaves Samm and DD as the only players to not soft-claim anything. I don't really like Patrick's claim though, or the fact he hasn't lynched all game. I find it very shady when players toss out suspicion without following it up at all.

Nofo could still be SK or something silly like that but that doesn't make him as viable a threat as the other factions in any case.

It's between Samm and DD. Samm is difficult to read but he tossed some suspicion out for Matt early in the game and was pushing hard for a lynch. I could buy that the werewolves figured out Matt's role, but no way he'd have survived as long as he did were that the case so I dunno, I feel like Samm isn't the way to go.

I have to lean towards DD.

I don't think Jamie has even been around since the game started. Has anybody seen him/her viewing the thread? Feels like a waste of a lynch to me.

DD also falls into the category of players who dip in and don't lynch at all but toss around a lot of suspicions. He also did this "sorry guys I'm here now!" thing one of the days which rubs me up the wrong way, I find it to be a common scum-tell.

Makes it kind of hard to tell one way or another when people do this. I'm comfortable with going this way, but figure he should at least have a chance to claim.

I really think there's no harm in everybody claiming now.

If Jamie is the mastermind scum behind this whole operation, I swear to god.

I don't think Samm would go on like this if he wasn't town though:

http://www.ndimforums.com/fe/thread.asp?threadid=3738&postsby=431
Seems a bit overkill when Matt would only be a threat to the werewolves (and they'd just have taken him out sooner if they knew)

Patrick! No lynches, just tossing out suspicion. Convenient claim for a role that he knows won't be countered because everybody else is all claimed up or inactive.

Actually Wikey did seem to imply the third mason was scum, for some reason. I'll go dig it up.

Full list of remaining roles:

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Vanilla Townie - discarded by Moose Vanilla Townie - discarded by JJ Vanilla Townie - discarded by Tony Vanilla Townie - discarded by Kat Vanilla Townie - MOOSE Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Watcher - BOC Tracker - GREENDAY Tracker Deputy - discarded by Rose Cop - SHADOW Cop Lover - discarded by Greenday Seer - ROB Seer - Matt FBI Agent - ANGI Doctor - ARI Doctor Roleblocker Jailkeeper - discarded by Nofo Bodyguard Vigilante One-shot Vigilante One-shot Dayvig - Vic One-shot Dayvig Compulsive Childkiller Bulletproof Townie Supersaint - LAMPS One-shot Paranoid Gun Owner Mason Mason Mason Mason Mason Doctor Mason Lover - WIKEY Lover - discarded by Herm Lover - discarded by DD Lover Jack-of-all-trades Vengeful Townie Retired Werewolf Hunter Retired Marine Miller Hirsute Townie Evangelistic Townie Tentacled Townie Watchlisted Townie - discarded by Vic Universal Miller - discarded by Shadow Black Goo - KAT Ascetic Townie - discarded by Schrauben Private Investigator - JJ Gravedigger Nymphomaniac One-shot Governor - discarded by Dylan One-shot Unlynchable Townie Town Godfather Innocent Child - discarded by Boc Hider - TRICKS Enabler - discarded by Tricks Treestump Conspiracy Theorist - discarded by Christian Conspiracy Theorist Conspiracy Theorist One-shot Kingmaker - discarded by Jeff Weak Jailkeeper Bloodhound Vanilla Cop Hero - discarded by Curtis Tourist - discarded by Wikey Nurse - discarded by Patrick One-shot Commuter - discarded by Lamps Cop-of-all-Trades - AHODA One-shot Gladiator - discarded by Chris Lynchbait Psychiatrist Judas - KIWI Saulus Underdog - DRR Mafia Goon - discarded by Ari Mafia Goon - discarded by Angi Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Goon Mafia Godfather Mafia Tracker - discarded by Samm Mafia Tracker - Jeff Mafia Doctor - discarded by Brian Mafia Roleblocker - Schrauben Mafia Lover Mafia Seer Mafia One-shot Dayvig Mafia One-shot Governor Mafia Strongman Mafia Reflexive Doctor Hirsute Goon - discarded by Kiwi Mafia Cupid Alpha Goon Mafia Compulsive Hider Werewolf - discarded by Ahoda Werewolf Werewolf Werewolf Alpha Werewolf Werewolf Roleblocker Werewolf One-shot Bulletproof - discarded by Rob Werewolf Cop Werewolf Mason Werewolf Watcher - Christian Werewolf FBI Agent Ninja Werewolf Werewolf One-shot PGO Werewolf Miller Werewolf Supersaint - discarded by Matt Werewolf Godfather Werewolf Gravedigger Alien One-shot Unlynchable - KORR Alien Prober - DYLAN Alien Vanillaiser Alien Silencer - HERM Bulletproof Alien Lover Alien Psychotrooper - TONY Alien Mass Redirector - discarded by Paul Alien Bloodsucker - discarded by Korr Alien Sympathiser Survivor Compulsive Bodyguard Survivor - discarded by Jamie Survivor Mason - BRIAN Lyncher - CHRIS Lyncher Serial Killer - Curtis Serial Killer Serial Killer Serial Killer One-shot Cult Recruiter Cult One-shot Goomaker

Nofo ☭ @ 25/1/2015 21:55

actually, isn't it possible we killed the mafia with jeff? Could just be DD. If he flips Werewolf, there's our answer

Wouldn't explain why there were three kills, unless the kill order dictated his went through before he was killed.

Patrick @ 25/1/2015 22:04

Best Case: Jeff did get the kill off. Lynch the other killer today. Game over. Worst Case. Jeff did not do the kill. Lynch doesn't remove a kill. 5 left with 3 kills. shit

Pretty much.

Based on scanning his posts I'm not too worried about a DD lynch, but I've been wrong many many times before!

Town is in some very capable hands here!

Patrick isn't SK at least. Angi's scan with the POOPER role removed that possibility.

Uh oh.