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| Post #1: 29th Jun 2012 7:09 PM | |
Looks quite interesting. I'll give it a go. | |
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PORL
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| Post #2: 29th Jun 2012 7:21 PM | |
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The concept is really interesting. The movie itself looks... eh.
And is it just me or does JGL look REALLY different here? Did they try to make him look more like Bruce Willis or something? |
It looks like a mindless action movie but I'm bearing in mind that it's the trailer and they probably picked those scenes. Also the dialogue is a little bit silly.
I'll give it a go in any case. | |
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| Post #3: 11th Oct 2012 9:41 AM | |
Saw yesterday. THOUGHTS with spoilers (without specifics but be warned)
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It was good. I found it a very enjoyable movie. The quality was top notch for sci-fi and the plot along with certain elements and the exposition were all very captivating.
I'm actually torn on the time travel thing because I think they actually make it consistent within their own universe...to a degree. By having a timescale that isn't pre-determined but rather that can evolve with conscious free will (that in turn creates probable paths to a future).
I'm not sure how this bodes for both forms of an individual being in the same time and how affecting a body can definitely affect a future whereas say, killing a child will have no consequences whatsoever. It seems like both things would in theory limit the possibility of the future self arriving in the past and since letting a loop run would almost certainly prevent a timeline that resulted in the looper's travelling, I would argue that the mere act of performing this would in turn "disappear" the future looper from existence.
I think the movie's main failing on the time travel issue is the body harming of a past self resulting in the future self being harmed. This is a nice gimmick which is about as useful a plot device as the TK hovering a quarter is a useful trick. Ultimately it makes a hash of the whole affair, because one could argue that such harm wouldn't be definite. Who is to say the harmed individual wouldn't have a mechanical graft attached in a possible future? It certainly wouldn't result in the future self immediately experiencing these effects.
I don't actually take qualm with the issue that the effects are immediate (after all, both forms are in one stream of time. If we go with futures being possible and not certain, changing the present can ultimately effect the future form by eliminating a number of theoretical possible paths). It's just that I don't believe they would have a certain effect at all. I also don't see how killing is any more dangerous to the course of the future than maiming somebody. Either event could have critical alterations. The smallest change can echo a much larger effect.
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Abe is playing a minor time cop role but this is never explored. He's from the future and he seems adamant on pushing Joe to China. I don't know if he's in the employ of the rain maker or what but it's never explored which is kind of a shame. I feel like there's a bit of wasted potential there to be honest.
Still, why he's okay with maiming a body to begin with seems a bit off with this. I guess he feels it's a safer bet than allowing a loop to run which could be more catastrophic. |
All in all though I found it a very enjoyable watch. It was entertaining, captivating and all in all very good sci-fi. I like it when a futurescape is more believable (comparisons of this and Children of Men come to mind though the latter is a better movie) and this movie paints a lovely, bleak but believable future. The only elements that are extremely out there are the time travel and TK stuff but the rest is fair game. And those two points being integral and intriguing mean that I can let it slide because it paints a nice universe where these elements slide into place.
I also like a sci-fi that is very confident in its own universe. That sells the movie to me. Looper feels not only sure of its own universe but completely positive. There's never any doubt from these characters or anything thrown in that causes confusion or makes a passer by bat an eyelid. It's all consistent and believable. That sells a movie to me.
So highly recommended with a BUT on the time travel. Since very few movies do it right, and very few movies do it better than Looper anyway, I'll give it a pass on this element and say it was a rousing success.
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