This is going to be fun! Lot of interesting roles in the shuffle. We could have 4 serial killers!

##lynch Curtis

lets get this show on the road

Curtis @ 14/1/2015 4:56

I believe I may actually be the leading lynchee due to the Jeffrey Ari Wikey squad who joke lynch me every D1. This is no bueno!

i havnt day 1 lynched you for a long time! started off as a pressure tactic but i actually find your posts suspicious after reading the whole day. Very deflective. I also agree with kiwi that JJ and Paul give a VIBE. Dont think scum Moose would claim town vanilla on day one as randomly as she did, she is a smarter than that.

this discard discussion is on a dangerous path. we cant assume anything about peoples alignments based on discards, it was randomly distributed. Kc said he would keep it random. We can assume people would pick the role they want to play more, which might tell us that they value their chosen role more highly than their discarded one.

I am a bit wary of those that discarded third party roles, seeing as most people probably prefer to play as that, mainly because its rare. I know i would have to have pretty good choices to drop a role like that, maybe they an elaborate?

Matt @ 14/1/2015 7:52

Yeah this is Jamie's first mafia. I'll shoot him

Scum slip

PORL @ 14/1/2015 9:07

Given it's day one, you're not covering for the fact you've received some in-game intel, so what is it?

Is this directed at me? If so, why do you think I have received any intel?

PORL @ 14/1/2015 9:07

##Lynch: Tricks And Ari, as wonderful as your posts have been, I would like to know exactly what a "vibe" is and what it entails. State your suspicions and back them up with evidence and examples. I won't object to whatever it is you find scummy, PROVIDED you actually state what it is. Given it's day one, you're not covering for the fact you've received some in-game intel, so what is it?

You where very dismissive of looking into what people have discarded, which I agree partly with but it can be used to an extent.

People are obviously going to pick the role they think would be the most fun to play and is more valued by them, seeing as this is a game. From my experience, third party roles are pretty fun to play. I dont think I have ever seen or heard someone complain that playing third party was boring, people usually dont get to do that very often as there are only 1-2 in each game. F.x. I have played this game for a relatively long time and I only think ive received a third party role 2-3 times, so for me to throw a third party role down the drain I would have to have a pretty solid alternative.

With that in mind, for people to discard a third party role they would have to have a better or a more valued role (by themselves) to pick.

Now, you discarded a supposed third party role (Alien doesnt sound very townie) and you downplaying the discard list sounds very much like you are trying to hide that you picked a better scum role. Thats the vibe that I am getting from you.

Kru @ 14/1/2015 10:51

Ari @ 14/1/2015 11:37 PORL @ 14/1/2015 9:07 ##Lynch: Tricks Spoiler + And Ari, as wonderful as your posts have been, I would like to know exactly what a "vibe" is and what it entails. State your suspicions and back them up with evidence and examples. I won't object to whatever it is you find scummy, PROVIDED you actually state what it is. Given it's day one, you're not covering for the fact you've received some in-game intel, so what is it? You where very dismissive of looking into what people have discarded, which I agree partly with but it can be used to an extent. People are obviously going to pick the role they think would be the most fun to play and is more valued by them, seeing as this is a game. From my experience, third party roles are pretty fun to play. I dont think I have ever seen or heard someone complain that playing third party was boring, people usually dont get to do that very often as there are only 1-2 in each game. F.x. I have played this game for a relatively long time and I only think ive received a third party role 2-3 times, so for me to throw a third party role down the drain I would have to have a pretty solid alternative. With that in mind, for people to discard a third party role they would have to have a better or a more valued role (by themselves) to pick. Now, you discarded a supposed third party role (Alien doesnt sound very townie) and you downplaying the discard list sounds very much like you are trying to hide that you picked a better scum role. Thats the vibe that I am getting from you. Alien isn't townie, from the looks of it, it looks like a weaker mafia faction. Third party roles may be fun but they tend to be harder to win with though.

Can you explain the Alien faction better? Weaker mafia faction?

Rob of 2015 @ 13/1/2015 23:26

##lynch Moose. As I see it, best-case scenario we lynch scum. Worst-case scenario, we lose a vanilla. Worst-worst-case scenario Moose was some valuable town role and claimed vanilla for some stupid reason, and then we lose someone who claimed vanilla for some stupid reason and caused a bunch of unnecessary suspicion to distract us from finding people who are actually evil.

On the case of Rob, I dont like this post at all. This is a horrible reason to lynch someone.

I think this is correct?

Curtis 2/17 - Wikey, Ari
Christian 1/17 - Ahoda
Ahoda 1/17 - Moose
Matt 1/17 - Samm
Moose 3/17 - Shadow ,Rob, Kru
JJ 1/17 - Kiwi
Jeff 2/17 - Boc, JJ
Jamie 1/17 - Dylan
Ari 1/17 - Schrauben
Tricks 2/17 - Herm, Paul
Rob 1/17 - Lamps

schrauben @ 14/1/2015 14:36

## unlynch Ari I agree with Lamps reasoning on Rob, however I'm going to save my vote for a bit, I'm starting to warm up to a Moose lynch, cause the more I think about it, I don't understand as a Town Vanilla why one would claim that soon putting pressure on themselves, when imo the way to play it is essentially sacrifice and allude to more of a power role that would take attention during the night and saving a power role. Someone said something similar to this earlier, but I can't remember who and don't have time to go back and look.

You think its more likely that scum Moose would claim on day 1 a role that he cant prove he has? Seems pretty risky seeing as she didnt have any heat on her.

ahoda @ 14/1/2015 14:50

Ari @ 14/1/2015 10:47 schrauben @ 14/1/2015 14:36 ## unlynch Ari I agree with Lamps reasoning on Rob, however I'm going to save my vote for a bit, I'm starting to warm up to a Moose lynch, cause the more I think about it, I don't understand as a Town Vanilla why one would claim that soon putting pressure on themselves, when imo the way to play it is essentially sacrifice and allude to more of a power role that would take attention during the night and saving a power role. Someone said something similar to this earlier, but I can't remember who and don't have time to go back and look. You think its more likely that scum Moose would claim on day 1 a role that he cant prove he has? Seems pretty risky seeing as she didnt have any heat on her. It's dumb and selfish. I'd rather lynch her then making someone else role claim imo. I think she's being honest but I've also used that same tactic as scum and claimed VT on Day 1 and lasted until the end of the game.

So you think she is town and you still want to lynch her based on a play you made in a previous game?

schrauben @ 14/1/2015 14:52

Ari @ 14/1/2015 14:47 schrauben @ 14/1/2015 14:36 ## unlynch Ari I agree with Lamps reasoning on Rob, however I'm going to save my vote for a bit, I'm starting to warm up to a Moose lynch, cause the more I think about it, I don't understand as a Town Vanilla why one would claim that soon putting pressure on themselves, when imo the way to play it is essentially sacrifice and allude to more of a power role that would take attention during the night and saving a power role. Someone said something similar to this earlier, but I can't remember who and don't have time to go back and look. You think its more likely that scum Moose would claim on day 1 a role that he cant prove he has? Seems pretty risky seeing as she didnt have any heat on her. I agree, that's why I didn't think we should lynch her earlier, but how does a Town Moose, claim VT and help the town?

Because numbers matter? Moose might also start contributing some delicious posts in later days. Do you think Moose is town?

Christian @ 14/1/2015 14:59

I mean, I don't think she's scum, but she could be. Is losing a Town Vanilla is better than no lynch?

Well you should lynch someone you think is scum. A no lynch is the worst possible outcome.

KC @ 14/1/2015 15:33

Moose - 3 (Shadow, Angi, Kiwi, Rob, Korr) Curtis - 3 (Wikey, Ari, Jeff) Matt - 2 (Lamps, Samm, Curtis) Jeff - 2 (Boc, JJ) Tricks - 2 (Herm, Paul) Christian - 1 (Ahoda, Ahoda) Ahoda - 1 (Curtis, Moose, dr, Ahoda, Herm) JJ - 1 (Kiwi) Rob - 1 (Lamps) Jamie - 1 (Dylan) Vic - 0 (JJ) Tony - 0 (JJ) Ari - 0 (Schrauben) I think this is right.

Nobert @ 14/1/2015 5:52

Christian @ 14/1/2015 1:50 what is Jeff lying about? About unlynching when I hit one, I guess I should have stated I want a video of Curtis exalting me for the first itme eva (: but I must abide by my RULE ##unlynch: Curtis

Jeff/Norbert unlynched Curtis