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Post #1: 19th Dec 2023 10:17 PM 
I think yesterday pretty much told us a lot. It makes no sense for any of the Nav voters to be mafia given how easily it would've been to save him. So I don't think we should be lynching TT, Farlig, or Zersch until most everyone else is dead or cleared in some way.

Since an effort wasn't made to save Nav yesterday, (Ahoda flipped town and I'm town) and it makes very little sense for Nav to have been pushing for a scummate as an alternative, it feels like Nav's scummates are probably people who weren't around or paying attention. Tib was killed last night.

So the others who didn't vote were: Sami, Brian, and Jamie. Could all be scum. Sami for not being around. Brian and Jamie maybe feeling like if they voted to save Nav and it flopped it'd look bad for them?

Rodney is most likely the arsonist if Zersch's role is true. Mafia probably have a JOAT with a role cop type role.

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Brian
Jamie
Rodney
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Post #2: 19th Dec 2023 10:21 PM 
itsbrianyay @ 19/12/2023 23:03
Is it fair to say neither Ahoda or TIB were vig kills

Rodney did you blow them up


No, I killed Kat and Ahoda. I'm sorta the vig. I'm called Town CPR Doctor. I either save the person I visit, if they are also targeted with another kill, but if they aren't, I kill them. Since it's sorta a doctor role, I was sus of Ahoda, and wanted him out of the picture in case any of Nav's scummates voted with him for TT yesterday. Plus he claimed Doctor, so if he was that, Mafia was very likely to try and kill him, and my visit would then save him. Very strange role, but it is mine and I am town.
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Post #3: 19th Dec 2023 10:28 PM 
Zersch @ 19/12/2023 23:23
I did notice the Ahoda counterclaim and then when it went nowhere I wasn't sure if I should bring it back up.


Yeah I didn't want to outright say I was sus of Ahoda because I wasn't sure there'd be another townsided doctor role at the time, but then Nav flipped mafia and Ahoda voted with him, so he made the most sense for my choice to visit with my role.
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Post #4: 19th Dec 2023 10:29 PM 
Rodney @ 19/12/2023 23:24
Brian
Jamie
Sami
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In that order. Brian is almost certainly scum and Jamie probably is too



Agreed. And you've probably primed 3 people by now if you are the arsonist.
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Post #5: 19th Dec 2023 10:30 PM 
Hopefully some of them have died though.
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Post #6: 19th Dec 2023 10:31 PM 
The reason I voted 317 D2 was because I was told my action was unsuccessful on him on N1. He flipped with a role where nothing would effect my role, though. So not sure why I was unsuccessful. I wasn't told I was roleblocked, but Idk if I would've been told if I was.
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Post #7: 19th Dec 2023 10:42 PM 
Zersch - JOAT
Farlig - Messenger?
Stargate - CPR Doctor
TT - Survivor?
Rodney - ? Arsonist ?
Sami - Mafia?
Brian - Mafia?
Jamie - Mafia?
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Post #8: 20th Dec 2023 12:04 PM 
Is Farlig trying to get himself on the scum list with his posts today?
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Post #9: 20th Dec 2023 1:06 PM 
We need to hear what Brian and Sami's role claims are and then we can go off that.

I feel like we're right about 2-3 of Jamie, Brian, and Sami having to be Mafia after that last vote, but there is always the possibility Mafia are just nutters and Zersch dumbly turned on Nav for no real reason other than to look town by being the one to have a tie be avoided. It was 3-3 between Nav and TT with 2 minutes to go when Zersch unvoted TT and voted Nav.

But makes no sense to me why Mafia would turn on any of their numbers, especially the redirector. Simplest answer is Mafia weren't around to save Nav or were but were undecided on whether to vote or not and potentially make themselves look bad. And the non-voters were Sami, Brian, Jamie, and TIB. Mafia killed TIB, which leaves Sami, Brian, and Jamie.

Idk the JOAT claim, messenger claim, survivor/arsonist stuff, any one of them could be mafia still with those claims. Could be super unlucky town if there are multiple town in the non-voters pool. But really hard to wrap my head around Mafia turning on Nav, voting for Nav, etc. when Ahoda flipped town who voted with Nav, I am town, and that just leaves the non-voters.
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Post #10: 20th Dec 2023 2:29 PM 
I don't even know what to say to you claiming one of your 2-shot JOAT roles is an alignment scan that you first used on N3. 💀 But thanks for using it on me.
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Post #11: 20th Dec 2023 2:31 PM 
Zersch @ 20/12/2023 15:11
Listen, we can lynch me IRL after the game.


Do you think I should cpr myself tonight, one of the non voters, or you? Don't answer that. I'll big brain it if we manage to lynch scum today. 🎲
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Post #12: 20th Dec 2023 2:44 PM 
Someone who isn't accused of being an arsonist should probably be the one to pick which non-voter we vote for.
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Post #13: 20th Dec 2023 4:59 PM 
I was about to vote for Brian but now I see Jamie has voted for Sami. In effort to get us to vote for Sami? or in an effort to get us to vote for Brian?
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Post #14: 20th Dec 2023 5:07 PM 
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Post #15: 20th Dec 2023 8:13 PM 
Sami @ 20/12/2023 21:11
I mean im not lying, I was only able to track starting n3


But are you town>?
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