Hi. I've been quite open about who I am and what I've done. I'm the Vig and I thought Lamps looked scummy with his "one more day" shit, so I killed him last night hoping primarily that I'd hit scum or secondarily that I'd eliminate a mislynch for today.

Not to go all OMGUS, but...I suspect there could be scum using Curtis flip opportunistically to push suspicion onto me after, I believe, I've behaved town-like on the whole.

Also, the sun is up on this beautiful Saturday morning. Why is it only me, the host, and a corpse here? (Hi, Curtis!) Come throw shade to my face!

Timmah @ 15/4/2017 11:10

Okay, so now that im not half asleep, let me try this again. Possible SK: timmah, cherry, Angi Likely for mafia (in this order imo): Vic (he's mafia), im317 (cherry could check his role?h, Helios (though the role leans town to me) Next potential options for mafia: Jamie (role seems plausible), Z (delay action), Christian (mafia inventor?), nofo (mafia doc - I don't think it's likely, but perhaps) Town to me - spin (confirmed), herm (confirmed by Curtis), DS (confirmed by Curtis), farlig (role confirmed by spin), TIB (role confirmed by multiple) Did I miss a Curtis confirmed player? Was thinking maybe Christian was too?

Yes, Curtis said he visited Christian.

Timmah @ 15/4/2017 11:45

Everyone has claimed as no one is claiming redirect, other than TIB. So I think the best course of action is ##lynch Vic Takes out likely 1 mafia. Then cherry kills im317. If im317 dies it takes out another mafia. If cherry dies it conforms I'm' claim and helps answer the sk question. Then you lynch me/Angi to get the likely sk answer. If cherry survives and neither dies it confirms im's role and answers the SK question right there.

Question about this plan...if IM317 is telling the truth and I kill him at night, we lose two town. Is this good?

Zersch @ 15/4/2017 12:53

He would kill you if you attacked him. If he's telling the truth. I think he would survive. ##Unlynch

OH, right.

Can I ask a dumb question that doesn't do myself any favors...when we see these parts of roles that are hidden from players, is it possible there's ever a Serial Killer that doesn't know they're a serial killer?

If that's the case, and if it's unlocked by killing a certain number of times, I can avoid killing anymore? That seems odd though after I've killed 4 times. I suppose it's possible when it unlocks after a more "successful" kill, but killing mafia seems like an odd thing required to make you less Town.

Vic @ 14/4/2017 23:59

Any chance Cherry is lying about being Vig? Someone pointed out that he already was pushing Aries as scum before Aries tried to claim Vig so maybe Cherry used it as a way for us to get Aries lynched. That'd be risky as fuck though

It's true I was pushing Aries before I had to CC. Zersch is the one who pointed this out. On D1, I found Aries' behavior odd based on what I knew of him from outside this game. I held off on pushing, but by D3, his avoidance of any questions was strongly pinging my scumdar.

Your purported theory is preposterous though. If we weren't lynching Aries, it looked like we were lynching Herm. There'd be no need for me to bury Aries. If anything, him taking credit for my kills would be good for an SK, no?

Zersch @ 15/4/2017 0:30

We know DS knows who visits him. We know Christian gives gifts. We know Spin is Friendly Neighbor. We know Helios extended the day. Timmah did survive an attack, but I don't think has said anything about his role. My distractions/delays were claimed by Aries and Jamie before I outed myself. Cherry has definitely killed people. Herm was cleared by Curtis so I'm removing him. So... 10. Jamie - Psychiatrist, can't be recruited and blocks cult recruits on target 11. Vic - Mortician, checks corpse for their visited players 17. Angi - Can be BP when she chooses 18. Farlig - Roleblocks people who visit him 19. im317 - Claims his role has no visiting properties / ??? 20. Tib - Localized Nexus, draws abilities used on target to himself 25. Timmah - ??? 29. Nofo - Doctor, can stop a lynch

I think some of these are worth exploring further. Jamie's claim only surfaced after (we hope) the cult sub-plot is resolved. Vic visits corpses (town only) after we've already discussed who visited whom. IM317 claims to kill anyone who tries to night kill him but I've never visited him and he's scummy enough the mafia has avoided visiting him, so it's also plausible but not likely to be confirmed.

Vic @ 15/4/2017 14:07

Trust me if I were Mafia I'd come up with a better claims than a fucking mortician

Why?

Also, Curtis said that his report said he "believed" Darren was town. I can't figure out what that means. Do we remember if he got that report before or after his interrogator unlocked?

Darren Sanders @ 15/4/2017 14:14

CherryBerry @ 15/4/2017 10:13 Also, Curtis said that his report said he "believed" Darren was town. I can't figure out what that means. Do we remember if he got that report before or after his interrogator unlocked? He got my result after

So if you are anti-town, it would not have automatically killed him. Have there been any instances where you revealed someone visiting you before they had announced it?

Zersch @ 15/4/2017 14:15

CherryBerry @ 15/4/2017 13:15 Darren Sanders @ 15/4/2017 14:14 CherryBerry @ 15/4/2017 10:13 Also, Curtis said that his report said he "believed" Darren was town. I can't figure out what that means. Do we remember if he got that report before or after his interrogator unlocked? He got my result after So if you are anti-town, it would not have automatically killed him. Have there been any instances where you revealed someone visiting you before they had announced it? Nofo from what I remember.

Thank you. Hermit isn't on Mafia Wiki. What's the best source for looking up the types of roles used on this site?

Darren Sanders @ 15/4/2017 14:19

Are you really trying to throw shade on someone cleared by Curtis? We saw his flip, there was no hidden text related to any false information

Therefore a discrepancy in how the information reported to him comes from the source, not from his role/report.

Vic @ 15/4/2017 14:22

Zersch @ 15/4/2017 14:10 Vic @ 15/4/2017 13:07 Trust me if I were Mafia I'd come up with a better claims than a fucking mortician If you had to make up a fake claim right now for the game, what would it be? Something to do with being BP because you seem to believe that! How can Angi and Timmah both be telling the truth? One is a one shot BP sand the other is BP whenever they feel like it?

Pains me to say this because I still don't feel great about Vic, but if y'all are so convinced we have a SK, it probably is worth exploring BP people. :-/