Curtis @ 2/2/2019 22:14

Ahoda @ 2/2/2019 22:53 NFL hates New England and would never fix a game for them

You realize that any sports related comment Ahoda makes is completely backwards, don't you? If he says a team will win, they will lose, if he says it'll be high scoring, it'll be low scoring. If he says the NFL wouldn't fix a gamne for the pats, it means they have done so at leat 100 times, etc, etc, etc

Havo @ 4/2/2019 16:11

Was the most overall boring SB I can remember. I can and do most definitely appreciate a great defensive performance. But I hesitate to say that’s what this was. McVay was lost and in over his head. No adjustments, no clue what to do. He’s admitted IT even. It was just ugly on the Rams side offensively. Defensively they were solid, but Brady and the Pats offense was also less than stellar. There were a ton of just plain bad plays by both offenses. Bad throws, poor routes. Just very sub par for that level IMO. There wasn’t many great defensive plays by players. It was all a scheme effort. Which is fine, but it’s not gonna go down as a great defensive game, because the offenses were not counter punching. The commercials sucked more than ever. I mean I can’t think of a single really good one. Not one. The halftime show, lol, like I give a shit, but still. Hell the first thing I can remember when anyone mentions SB halftime shows, is Katy Perry riding in on a giant lion. Even she knew how to make an entrance. Congrats to the Pats and their fans and Curtis. But this SB was quite forgettable IMO.

I agree with all of this. I will give the pats props for making a mediocre Goff throw the ball a lot. Common sense scheme against the rams. I wouldn't call either D great, but that was the ideal scheme against the rams.

Next season, If I see a single team fail to knock Edelmann around at the LOS instead of letting him run free and jitterbug around, I'm done with the NFL.

I did enjoy the game, though. It wasn't all about QB's for a change.

lol

Ahoda @ 4/2/2019 7:23

I think what make the Pats so boring is their lack of super star or even star level talent on defense. Outside of Brady and Gronk they really don't have that "sex" appeal. BB is such a great coach and talent evaluator. That staff and entire organization is on another level.

The most impressive thing about their staff is the simplicity. Nothing fancy happening on either side of the ball. Just fundamental football tilted to match the skillset of the current players.

I know. The way they develop players is amazing.

Spin @ 8/2/2019 13:18

Curtis @ 8/2/2019 9:28 Keep going And the way they keep star players from reaching their full earning potential, so they can stack more talent on the roster than most other places, definitely doesn't hurt.

Yeah. Their "dig em out of the woodwork and coach em up. Then dump them when they see some real earning potential" methods are legendary.

I like the cowboys, but am not delusional enough to think Emmitt Smith was top 3 among cowboy HB's, let alone all time, all NFL. I don't think Aikman was a top 50 QB all time, let alone top 5. Those guys won a lot of Superbowls and were it not for the niners would have won a lot more, but that doesn't make them Johnny U and Jim B.

Brady does have a lot of the X-factor things, *(poise, leadership, focus, etc...) that make up for a lot of the natural arm talent that he doesn't have, so talent alone can't be looked at without including his mental makeup.

Not sure there would have been no difference with Jimmy Grapes. Brady's experience and mental side probably won them a few games that maybe Jimmy wouldn't have.

Spin @ 8/2/2019 15:10

Primate @ 8/2/2019 15:06 I like the cowboys, but am not delusional enough to think Emmitt Smith was top 3 among cowboy HB's, let alone all time, all NFL. I don't think Aikman was a top 50 QB all time, let alone top 5. Those guys won a lot of Superbowls and were it not for the niners would have won a lot more, but that doesn't make them Johnny U and Jim B. Vikings fans say you're welcome. Any day now Herschel Walker is going to get his place in the ring of honor. Any day now.

Mike Lynn for President!

Havo @ 8/2/2019 20:09

Primate @ 8/2/2019 15:06 I like the cowboys, but am not delusional enough to think Emmitt Smith was top 3 among cowboy HB's, let alone all time, all NFL. I don't think Aikman was a top 50 QB all time, let alone top 5. Those guys won a lot of Superbowls and were it not for the niners would have won a lot more, but that doesn't make them Johnny U and Jim B. Emit Smith was an outstanding RB. But most of his career was spent playing behind an All Pro O line and following an All Pro Fullback thru the hole. He also had an offense that was loaded with weapons around him. Defenses could not focus on stopping him. Barry Sanders on the other hand was the complete opposite and was unstoppable most of the time. Aikman was good but not great. I’d say maybe 35-50. See the same as above. He also had good defenses that would bail him out. Football is a TEAM sport. You got to have the supporting cast to win SBs. Look what Montana had around him. HOFs every where. The best QB I ever saw was Dan Marino. And really isn’t even close. He put up phenomenal stats with sub par talent. No running game and defenses would focus on stopping the pass and they couldn’t. And he played in an era where QBs were hit almost every drop back. Unlike the touch football Brady gets to play in today. . Nobody could throw it like him. Had he played in SF he would have won 10 SBs. As far as the best RB I ever saw, Bo Jackson, Earl Campbell, Barry Sanders. Every single time those guys touched the ball, you knew it could be a TD. No matter what part of the field they were on.

Payton would be in my RB group. He too played on shit teams aside from 85 when they had a GOAT defense.. Near the very top. Peyton is close to Marino. I always wished Marino would have done a year or two in a system that could get him a SB near the end of his career like Elway got to do.

Earl Campbell was so fun to watch. He just mauled people. Riggins was really fun to watch in his heyday, too, but mainly because that OL got him to the 2nd level where he could absolutely abuse LB's and DB's. He would be a DE or LB today.

Hell Phil Simms played in 2 super bowls and he was pretty mediocre.

Curtis @ 8/2/2019 18:55

I’m so glad I don’t root for the sad sap nobodies that you all root for

Decades as a laughing stock, then this historic run would even make decent people act like this.