I just saw the tide pod thing on the news tonight. I actually saw some piss ignorant lady saying they need to make them look less appetizing and make the detergent less powerful so kids wouldn't die when they ate them. How about you watch your fucking kids instead?

National anthem- Wikey is missing the point. It's not about football. It's about a poorly thought out movement who learned that, even in the "look at me no matter what" era, there is such thing as bad press after all.

Death on youtube- It's in poor taste, but it isn't up to everyone else to filter what you view. Don't watch, ffs.

Coolest monkey- I have no idea what this is, but voted for it because monkeys are freaking adorable.

Happy Holidays- who gives a fuck what Trump says . At this point it's like picking on the special ed kids.


Dressing up as Madeleine McCann for Halloween- no cares


Sexual allegations in Hollywood- This has been going on since the dawn of time, but it's news because it happened to some flaky fuckheads with money?

Apple purposely slowing down older iPhones- I use android. Laughably shady, though. Not nearly as shady as what vw did, but that was never mentioned here.

I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his- as a child of the cold war kid, this worries me greatly.


What's your preferred pronoun- I'm with wikey on this one. Call yourself whatever you want, but leave your professional victim disorder at home.

Destruction of Confederate monuments in Virgina. "Virgina?" sounds like an East Coast titty bar, tbh. Seriously, I can see both sides. Destroying history is never good, but the losing culture in a war usually gets wiped out.

Kenya is a shithole- so is the USA. I want to fix that first.

California legalizes recreational marijuana- I haven't seen any real numbers from Colo so who knows if this is good or bad?

Death from the flu- Viral evolution is exponential, and this is still deadly as fuck, with little being done in the way of research.

Teenagers eating Tide pods- I already commented on this. I feel bad for the deaths of the senile and the kiddos, but holy shit, stop blaming the company for it.

Mass shootings in the USA- as I said above. The place is a shithole. Mental illness and disenfranchisement are a potent cocktail. Again, stop blaming the guns and the tv.


Big game hunting- Again, I'm with Wikey. I was raised with the "you kill it, you eat it" code. Trophy hunting is for douchey poseurs. Hunting protected species is even worse.

Buffy @ 13/1/2018 11:03

Wikey @ 13/1/2018 11:44 Buffy @ 13/1/2018 12:01 The confederate monuments don't serve as "lessons" for us to learn. They were erected by white supremacists as a way to assert their white supremacy. The point still stands. You can take nearly any historical monument and you'll find some ugly history behind it. All the churches in Europe were erected by Christians to assert Christian supremacy. There's a lot of ugly history there, but I don't think anybody would suggest we should tear down all churches today. I would like all the confederate monuments taken down and I think a lot of people would. I understand what you're saying but, it's not a history lesson. It's a bunch of statues/monuments put up by racists. It's no different (to me) than hanging the nazi flag all over the place and people would want those taken down. Well most, hopefully.

I disagree. History shouldn't be destroyed, and the fact that some of them were erected as an anti civil rights message makes them even more historically significant. I do like the museum idea better than tearing them down or leaving them where they are, though.

The churches in Europe that he mentions have a much longer and much more horrifying history than the short lived confederacy.

Otoh, I can definitely see how black people would find them to be really offensive. I think that could also be lessened in a museum with appropriate context.

Understanding history is the only chance to keep from repeating it.

Mads @ 13/1/2018 11:16

I wasn't suggesting they get their own museum, just displayed in a museum somewhere. Like a small, insignificant wing.

I don't think it should be in an insignificant wing. I think it's a really important and formative part of our history, and those statues could be a great teaching tool if done right.

I can agree to disagree, though.

I also look at it this way. The Nazis, the Muslim hordes, the Christian inquisitors, and nearly every other conquering party through history have destroyed every symbol of the dissenting view they could get their hands on. They did so to inspire fear and control the populace. Is that the goal of the destruction? If so, maybe we should find a better way than the one that has been used since the advent of tribalism.

The one exception I can think of offhand being the Vikings who conquered on a small scale and chameleoned right in on the large scale.

Yeah some really good discussion going on in here, so far.

Wikey @ 13/1/2018 11:48

I suppose it can be argued that sometimes destruction of monuments is entirely justified. I'm thinking of former communist countries destroying statues of Lenin, or Germany getting rid of statues of Hitler following WW2. Oh, and Iraqis tearing down that big ass statue of Saddam. So maybe the exception is when there are people who are still directly affected by whatever bad thing said monuments are related to. In which case, I can maybe see Maddies point about being a black man in Georgia etc

I can undeerstand reactive destruction, but it's still motivated by fear/hate. Maybe the cathartic benefits to that subsector could outweigh the negatives, though. It's definitely worth thinking about.

I voted for the monkey thing, the nuke thing, and I think 2 others.

vladykins @ 14/1/2018 10:10

Wikey @ 13/1/2018 10:18 Destruction of Confederate monuments in Virgina - Destroying your own past doesn't right any of its wrongs, and you take away any lessons you could learn. Every historic monument on earth is a testament to a shittier time. Slaves fought to the death for entertainment in The Colosseum, knock it down! The Taj Mahal was built by slaves, get rid of it. Horatio Nelson supported slavery, knock Nelson's Column down! I guess people that can't create anything themselves can only look to destroy things instead. The point is that the monuments being removed have nothing to do with the Civil War and were made in the 20s-60s out of cheap materials specifically to push against the Civil Rights movement. This isn't a memorial so much as it was a cracker "fuck you" to black people. The reason I say cheap materials is because they are- these aren't the earlier marble or granite memorials, but really crappy concrete cheapies mass produced for sudden demand for people to have a "confederate" monument in town. There is literally 0 historical lesson in any of them. Any decent ones get moved to a museum.

There is a huge historical lesson in them.

Thinking back, We did plenty of stupid stuff as kids, but were more proactive when it came to defying death. Jumping bicycles off the garage, climbing up buildings, walnut fights, bb gun wars, homemade explosives, motorcycle stunts, bottlerocket wars, street racing, bumper tag, doing things just to get the cops to chase us, etc...

Maybe I was a little harsh on the tide kids.