Well, my investigation finally went through again, and it's looking more likely that I'm either Insane or Paranoid.

I got a GUILTY on Herm, and he definitely flipped as Town.

WHY AM I STILL ALIVE?

Hey Christian or the other guy, can you update the player list?

With all the deaths, I'm forgetting who's actually still alive.

Dwayne JohnSeb @ 17/11/2017 18:49

Because you're an insane cop spin.

An insane cop is just as useful as a normal cop, once you know they are insane.

If I was a paranoid cop, then they'd have no reason to get rid of me, as all of my results would be Guilty.

I'd sure love to get an innocent at some point...

Dwayne JohnSeb @ 17/11/2017 18:52

Alive (13): 1. Seb - so town. 3. Dadd - Odd night Vig 8. Jamie - redirecting role of sorts. 12. Lamps - hasn't claimed. 15. Spin - insane cop 16. Ben - Teddy Long 18. Patrick - Mason softclaim 19. Brian - Inventor 22. Ahoda - Motivator 24. Darren Sanders - Mason softclaim 26. Zach - Clumsy type town role 29. Chris - hasn't claimed 30. Vic - BP claim We're still looking for 1-2 Mafia and 1 SK. Cool beans.

If there is a SK, it's a delayed/primed type SK, because we aren't missing any kills from last night (Vig x2 + Mafia).

Dadd @ 17/11/2017 18:51

Hi Spin!

FU Dadd

One minor bone to pick with the great Christian and Edge:

While Sasha Banks makes sense as the mafia godfather, there was literally a Hall-of-Fame wrestler called the Godfather.

Obviously, you guys didn't want a ride.

Ahoda @ 18/11/2017 5:34

DADD could be using Socks claim of even night vig.

In this case, that would make Dadd mafia, right? Then we are missing another killer. If Dade was SK, does he have a janitor partner?

Since we are laying it all out there.

N1: Free Candy -- GUILTY
N2: Lamps + Timmah -- GUILTY + GUILTY (likely affected by lightning rod)
N3: Vlady + Timmah -- NO RESULT (roleblocked)
N4: DS -- NO RESULT (roleblocked)
N5: Herm -- GUILTY

And Zach, if you've now double-primed me, I'm going to be double-pissed.

The Santa Pumpkin King @ 18/11/2017 8:09

Prior to the success of my action on Sock; I submitted N1: kill attempt redirected to Sugar N2: kill attempt redirected to J$ N3: Sent the doll to Josh, kill attempt redirected to Sock. For those still confused about my role, it is Ghoul. Haven't submitted an action since because my role was successful.

These actions also line up perfectly for the Mafia Janitor role. You claim a kill attempt redirect on the first 2 nights, knowing who the mafia are actually targeting instead. Then, you just happen to get successful the night Sock is janitored. Having used your one janitor action, you are now essentially a Goon.

I think people are giving you way too much town credit for the lightning rod on N2. It's becoming more apparent it was a result of brian's gift, and brian (if town) wouldn't have a way to know if you were town or scum when he gave it to you.

Ben @ 18/11/2017 9:39

Here's the thing that concerns me the most about Jamie's claim. His role redirects a kill, not a janitor action. So if Jamie was the mafia target to be killed that night, and they tried to Janitor him, wouldn't the kill be redirected like he claims his role will do, and the Mafia Janitor's action fails because they targeted Jamie, not Sock. They should be independent actions in my opinion, I thought Jamie was a bus driver or redirector, so I'm leaning towards not believing his claim.

Ghoul wouldn't redirect all actions. If jamie is telling the truth, then the mafia took a random stab that Sock was going to be killed to janitor him?

Yeah, even that group isn't that stupid.

##Lynch Jamie

I've used the janitor role before, and never once have I had the action be kill+janitor combined. The janitor is a separate role, just like it was in Hollywood Mafia here recently.

ZacharyB @ 18/11/2017 9:56

Jamie's been pretty pro town this whole game tbh

Yeah, those last minute votes on J$ and Tim were super townish.

Dadd @ 18/11/2017 10:04

So Jamie is claiming a kill only redirector?

This is the epic mafia version of the role Jamie is claiming: https://epicmafia.com/role/1391

Role: Ghoul
-Chooses one person every night.
-If targeted by a killing role, the chosen person will be killed instead.
-Ability only works once.
-Sided with the village.