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Post #1: 13th Nov 2017 8:00 PM 
I read the last third of D2 and all of D3 this morning. Here are my thoughts, and then my list (will be long):

-I started the re-read of D2 looking at those who started out so sure of themselves that FC had to be scum just because farlig flipped town - that list, based on the way I read it, was Jake (third party), Patrick, Tim (mafia), im317, and Vic.
-no one has cc’d vic’s BP town claim, which is enough to put him further down my scum list for now, but could still be a fake claim I suppose.
-I’ll be interested to see how spin’s investigations play out from here. He could be insane or paranoid, there could be a framer involved, or he could just have made the whole thing up because the mafia has a role cop who got “poisoner” on spin and he went for the town cred. I lean town for now though.
-Did DS softclaim and “clear” Patrick? JJ posted that he did, and if that is true, then it changes my perspective of Patrick, because I’ve been reading him as scum mostly. I read DS as town.
-Herm and Tim both swapped votes onto Patrick sometime I think after that, which also helps with my more favorable reading of Patrick. Also lends to my scum read on Herm.
-Herm and Seb started the defense of Tim, but Lamps joined them and then a lot of people started posting the “dumb town” line.
-Tim flipped to a Ben lynch at one point, and Josh followed right along. Lends to my scum read on Josh. Josh’s princess claim reinforces that read.
-TIB tied the vote up between Tim and J$, and then Seb was really the hammer before Jamie hopped on late. That adds to a town read of both TIB and Seb UNLESS J$ is also scum and Tim was just the expendable one.

At the end of D2, my top scum reads were Patrick, im317, lamps, vlady, Jamie and Dadd, in more of less that order.

At the end of D3, my top scum reads changed a bit to Herm, Josh, vlady (I think he was playing scummy to potentially use his role), J$ (but, very back and forth on this based on the end of the day lynch, and if he is scum, especially mafia, that changes a lot of things for me), Dadd, JJ (something just seems different than normal town JJ), im317, lamps - more of less in that order.

Reads on everyone:

1. Seb - lean town, UNLESS J$ flips mafia (or at least not mafia)
3. Dadd - read as scum
4. Buffy - lean scum
5. Josh - read as scum
6. Timmah - is town
8. Jamie - read as town, but I have no idea what he’s hinting at with the targeting thing today
10. Herm - may be my top scum read
12. Lamps - lean scum, but not strongly
14. TIB - lean town IF J$ is not mafia (or at least not mafia)
15. Spin - lean town
16. Ben - not really sure, but he has a daykill I guess so shoot well!
18. Patrick - lean town based on the things I posted above because had been reading scum
19. Brian - read town, but maybe mafia inventor, especially if Herm ends up mafia?
21. im317 - slight scum read, but not strong
22. Ahoda - no real read
24. Darren Sanders - read town
25. Johnny Dollar - kinda read scum, but I’m really on the fence due to the end of last day
26. Zach - not sure
27. Mittens - read town
29. Chris - not sure
30. Vic - read town I think
 
   
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Post #2: 13th Nov 2017 8:07 PM 
Dadd @ 13/11/2017 20:00
Oh yeah, TiB vote flip was oddly timed on Tim, I think


His flip to tie up the vote, helping lead to the lynching of a mafia member? You are playing very oddly imo, Dadd.

Also, I listed Zach as not sure, but forgot what was going on with him. Read him as town.
 
   
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Post #3: 13th Nov 2017 8:08 PM 
DS @ 13/11/2017 20:04
Vic @ 13/11/2017 15:39
I would think the people that stayed on the johnny train would be more likely to be town. Wouldn't Mafia want to jump on voting for Tim since he was getting lynched anyway?



That Tim vote was very spur of the moment


Exactly, J$ was absolutely getting lynched until the last minute there when TIB, then Seb, then Jamie moved votes to Tim.
 
   
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Post #4: 13th Nov 2017 8:09 PM 
Ben @ 13/11/2017 20:08
Tim at one point said he was up for a DADD lynch yesterday before his lynch gained any steam. Could totally be distancing, but I didn’t read it that way at the time.


I actually read that at the time as Tim distancing from Dadd, because he didn’t stay there for long and wasn’t in any danger at that point.
 
   
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Post #5: 13th Nov 2017 8:13 PM 
Ben @ 13/11/2017 20:11
Dadd @ 13/11/2017 21:09
Ben @ 13/11/2017 20:06
I don’t have a daykill timmah




Yes that was directed at Timmah. Furry mammals are confusing.


Wish you did, we could’ve answered this Josh question.

Re: the TIB vote, I read it as tying it up, but I may have missed that TIB had a vote on J$ before swapping, which would have made it 6-5 at that point. IDK.

Dadd is my top scum read just from today’s posts, fwiw.
 
   
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Post #6: 13th Nov 2017 8:34 PM 
The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 20:32
so 4 go in, 1 comes out? i am confuzzled


Sounds like perhaps the lynch vote will be limited to 4 specific persons?

Question, Jamie: do you know what it was that made you talk in rhymes? Or were you just told so it could’ve been any of the myriad of actions that were performed on you?
 
   
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Post #7: 13th Nov 2017 8:48 PM 
Hi, Dadd! Even though I think you are scum in this game, we can still be BFFs.
 
   
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Post #8: 13th Nov 2017 9:07 PM 
The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 21:01
The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 20:41
timmah I am asking christian something will get back to u

okay so: no comment


Well, that is vague. Can I ask if it was the pie?
 
   
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Post #9: 13th Nov 2017 9:33 PM 
ZacharyB @ 13/11/2017 21:30
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Zach, why did you visit me? Were you the one that roleblocked the town cop? If so, FU.


Nah I did not RB you

I visited you to share some tea!!


Yeah, I was going to say. JJ says she was able to get rid of the doll N1 even though Zach visited, so if JJ is being honest, then Zach isn’t blocker.
 
   
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Post #10: 13th Nov 2017 9:39 PM 
Before the old man starts shooting people from his front porch, I would like to amend my previous lists and thoughts to reflect that spin did, indeed, push very adamantly that Tim should be lynched yesterday.
 
   
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Post #11: 13th Nov 2017 9:40 PM 
Spin @ 13/11/2017 21:38
Dwayne JohnSeb @ 13/11/2017 20:35
spin's use of his role is a great Shakespearean tragedy.


What do you want me to do? I run into a Framer on N1, N2 I'm lured twice by a lightning rod that also happened to have the framer lured in, and N3 I'm roleblocked. Not sure what else you want?


How do you know there is a framer? You could definitely just be insane or paranoid.
 
   
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Post #12: 13th Nov 2017 9:55 PM 
##lynch Dadd
 
   
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Post #13: 13th Nov 2017 10:23 PM 
im317 @ 13/11/2017 22:21
interesting revelation from Buffy. also i could see a modified princess this game since Curtis used that as a fake claim not many games ago. i feel like good fake claims have a decent chance to become real roles in future games.


Mafia princess? Get your mafia member lynched and get an extra night.
 
   
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Post #14: 13th Nov 2017 11:04 PM 
Whoa, just because it seems to be becoming a potential question, the pies do not explode or poison or kill anyone. I don’t think they do anything. I am town and pies are delicious, if you smell what the rock is cookin.
 
   
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Post #15: 13th Nov 2017 11:07 PM 
Just when i thought DS and i were going to be BFFs this game...
 
   
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