I am not SK.

I do need to read the first 100 posts though

Zersch @ 15/4/2017 0:54

That N1 survival probably gonna be hanging over your head today more than any previous day.

Yeah, I know. It's bound to get me lynched at some point. And at this point, with the roles known, there isn't any real benefit left for trying to make scum think about whether I can be killed, and we've already lynched some of those responsible anyway. I'm actually good to have in the game for them, as we've seen with several of them trying to nudge the lynch my way throughout the game.

Couple of thoughts:

Vic's mortician claim is a great scum claim - who is there to cc at this point, since the people who visited are dead and so are the watcher/tracker?

The mil vet claim from im317 is a decent scum claim too at this point, as it keeps the vig from targeting him.

For a lot of the last day and a half I was starting to think Angi was GF. I didn't originally because her claim didn't cc me exactly, and because nothing she posted sounded like she knew that her group tried to kill me. To make sure it is clear, she claimed she can choose when to be BP, While I started the game with two heart containers. With Chris' flip, I am back to thinking we are both town. I know I am, anyway.

Farlig's role would make sense as we haven't seen a town blocker. I haven't seen this variation of it where he can't block kills, but this game isn't normal.

The SK info in Curtis' flip is really interesting. We've basically had only what we have attributed to mafia and vig (Cherry) kills all game. There has been no FBI agent or other town claim that combats an arsonist or bomber type SK. I don't think I've seen a game with one of those where there was not a town way to counter, but this is definitely not a normal game. I have really read Cherry as town since he started posting late in D1, so if he's not an is really SK, he's played a hell of a game.

Has Jamie claimed? I honestly cannot remember what I am supposed to think about him.

The only thing that has me thinking town on Helios is the extra time that day. That's not a scum action I would think, but as I have said a few times, this isn't a typical game.

If all else fails, I am starting to consider that Zersch has played a good scum game. I still read him as town, but he's a little more unknown than some others in my mind. He's not a lynch candidate for today, or even tomorrow, barring something interesting happening, though.

I can see that as a plausible town claim.

So, realistically, I think we are down to:

Im317
Vic
Timmah
Angi
Zersch
Christian

It is possible that one of the "town" roles that wasn't confirmed by Curtis is actually a second cult too. Would put farlig, TIB, Jamie, in this group along with the town roles from those I listed above.

I left Helios off that top list

Darren Sanders @ 15/4/2017 1:45

Timmah @ 14/4/2017 22:38 I can see that as a plausible town claim. So, realistically, I think we are down to: Im317 Vic Timmah Angi Zersch Christian It is possible that one of the "town" roles that wasn't confirmed by Curtis is actually a second cult too. Would put farlig, TIB, Jamie, in this group along with the town roles from those I listed above. Christian is uncc'd gift giver. I can see the logic on Z being last mafia because the person he "delayed" last night is dead. I think it's interesting you have no interest in lynching Cherry

Great list! I left off multiple people, and it is much longer than the simple list I thought it was when I started typing.

I also never actually pieced together Christian's role, but that does make sense. That raises a question though, was the extra time from Helios a gift from Christian or his role? I think that's a big distinction.

It's 2 am. I am going to sleep.

Well, I am going to sleep in a minute.

DS, I think you could be right about it being pretty simple with Cherry as SK. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that move that early in the game.

Vic @ 15/4/2017 2:19

##lynch Timmah I want a claim

I literally fully claimed in my big post last night.

Spin confirms farlig' role.

Knowing what I am, I would have to say that Angi or cherry is the sk. We've also had the same number of kills each night and know where they came from.

Even assuming that we lynch sk today, it s 100%assured that the remaining mafia are using this as cover. As for that, there is a 99% chance Vic is mafia. Makes sense to me looking at it all.

So I'm torn. Do I lynch cherry for being sk, though I've read him town all game or Vic who I believe is mafia?

Christian @ 15/4/2017 6:48

Timmah @ 15/4/2017 1:53 I also never actually pieced together Christian's role, but that does make sense. That raises a question though, was the extra time from Helios a gift from Christian or his role? I think that's a big distinction. Extra time not from me.

Fair enough. Makes Helios seem more town to me then.

Okay, so now that im not half asleep, let me try this again.

Possible SK: timmah, cherry, Angi

Likely for mafia (in this order imo): Vic (he's mafia), im317 (cherry could check his role?h, Helios (though the role leans town to me)

Next potential options for mafia: Jamie (role seems plausible), Z (delay action), Christian (mafia inventor?), nofo (mafia doc - I don't think it's likely, but perhaps)

Town to me - spin (confirmed), herm (confirmed by Curtis), DS (confirmed by Curtis), farlig (role confirmed by spin), TIB (role confirmed by multiple)

Did I miss a Curtis confirmed player? Was thinking maybe Christian was too?

jamie ♂ @ 15/4/2017 10:07

angi are you a survivor, the 3 uses of BP reminds me of a survivor putting on a vest

That's honestly not something that occurre to me, and is a great observation. Doesn't change my analysis though, at least not much.

Vic @ 15/4/2017 10:30

Timmah @ 15/4/2017 10:49 Vic @ 15/4/2017 2:19 ##lynch Timmah I want a claim I literally fully claimed in my big post last night. All you said is that you get two heart containers. That's a full claim?

Yes. It's pretty clear I had 2 lives.

Everyone has claimed as no one is claiming redirect, other than TIB. So I think the best course of action is

##lynch Vic

Takes out likely 1 mafia. Then cherry kills im317. If im317 dies it takes out another mafia. If cherry dies it conforms I'm' claim and helps answer the sk question. Then you lynch me/Angi to get the likely sk answer. If cherry survives and neither dies it confirms im's role and answers the SK question right there.