Vic @ 23/1/2017 21:14

Didn't like the random Mal vote when it was between Farlig and Spin yesterday

Yeah, I still think mal is scum fwiw.

Zersch @ 23/1/2017 21:17

Timmah who else have you watched other than me and who visited them?

N1 I used my deflect, which is why Angi took damage when she attacked the Darkus lynch train I think.

N2 I watched badger - blocked and silenced by Ahoda

N3 I watched DS - saw lamps, Merc and nofo

N4 I watched merc - saw no one

N5 I watched Curtis - saw no one

N6 I used the super star and watched Zersch - saw no one

N7 I used my deflect again

N8 I watched Vic - saw no one

N9 I watched Zersch - saw ???

Vic @ 23/1/2017 21:18

I also did not like Timmah randomly lynching Mal at the end of the day yesterday when it was tied on Spin and Farlig. AFTER he went through everyone's actions each day again and said he thought Spin being Mafia made sense due to the Primate lynch. Why lynch Mal then and not Spin? Seemed odd. Maybe didn't wanna put Spin ahead so close to the deadline idk

Explained it yesterday. Wanted to check the spin smash over DS argument he was selling. Said many times yesterday I thought Mal was/is scum. Needed a vote in case I ran out of time, which I did ultimately.

Vic @ 23/1/2017 21:39

I gave multiple reasons yesterday regarding almost every scum member on why I should be getting more town cred and I'm still not so I also have no sympathy ahoda sorry bruh

I think you're town unless you all decided to sacrifice herm for no reason when merc was about to die too

itsbrianyay @ 23/1/2017 22:14

does nofo show up as ??? ?

Yeah. I didn't want to out that info without reading the rest of the thread first

Nofo, you had 2 actions because of bunny hood?

I could see Ahoda as scum. He was super sketch early in the game. In fact I think it was his openness about being sketchy that made me think he's town.

Curtis @ 23/1/2017 23:53

I think we need to focus more heavily on voting patterns prob. OLD SCHOOL

Hey that's exactly what I've been trying to do all game!

You got the names right on all of mine Zersch. My final smash allows me to block any number of people, with the blocking also healing them 50

We haven't seen the mafia flip a blocker OR a healer, right?

UPDATING MY BIG POST! (hopefully I'm not screwing up the spoilers)

My theories so far:

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I said at least 2 mafia tried to get the sword. Herm and DS, check. Spin (Check!) and Ahoda still alive from that wagon. (Think Ahoda is town) Still think at least one mafia on each of the other D1 item claims: Brian and/or wikey on metal crate (check.); mittens, Vic, mal and/or nick on the party ball. THIS IS MY LAST OUTSTANDING THEORY, AND THE REST HAVE BEEN PRETTY SPOT ON! THIS IS WHY I THINK MAL IS SCUM D2 lynches of the top 2 (primate and TIB): spin, mal and Angi. [update - all of these are still in play and I'll be shocked if at least 1 isn't mafia] (CHECK!) D2 on the items: we're left with just Helios, mittens, Brian and Ahoda on the poke ball (with DS on this too - so maybe the least informative of all three of these). Looking exclusively at D1 and D2, it really looks like we are looking for scum in some form of brian, wikey, angi, mittens, spin, and nick. [update - still looking for one or two more from this list I think] UPDATE- MAL has to be added back to this list. The D3 lynch was town TIB. A fairly easy target. Only folks left alive are spin, mal, Brian, nofo, and Vic. (Merc was on this one too). Take nofo and Vic out. UPDATE - So, of my theories, Mal was on the party ball, was on the primate lynch AND was on the TIB lynch. HMMM

Day 1:

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Darkus lynch - merc and christian were on it Beam sword - DS and Herm were on it. spin was also on it (I still say mafia would have wanted this badly on N1, so 3 mafia on there is not out of the question) Metal box - wikey and brian on there (no other mafia so far - one of them is scum) Party Ball - mittens, Mal, vic, and nick on there [update - IT'S MAL!] Smash - Helios won it. Herm was on there. Angi is the only other person on there suspicious to me. UPDATE: if there was scum on the D1 party ball, it's pretty clearly MAL!

Day 2:

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Primate lynch - everyone on it town so far. spin and mal, the only ones left (spin looking real bad here) TIB lynch (other option) - everyone on it town, with angi the only one left (angi looking real bad here) Turkey - the two scum on this already caught (merc and christian) [update - this shows that the mafia wasn't afraid to double up on items] pokeball - DS was on here. Helios, mittens, brian and ahoda on as well. (not sure if much to read into) crate - all town on this. Smash - badger won with it being all town, with brian and angi as the only real possible scum on this. UPDATE - MAL moving back up the scum list here too, as he was on primate's lynch.

Day 3:

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TIB lynch - Merc was on it. spin and brian were also on it (mal (?), nofo, vic on it as well) [update - add Mal to the possible scum here] J$ lynch (he was the other option) - Herm was on this. Hammer - ahoda took it from scum DS, thankfully. Smash - Jamie (13/16) - Badger, Zersch, Herm, Lamps, Angi, Mittens, Dylan, Merc, Brian, im317, Ahoda, Nick, Spin (they kept it from DS by giving it to Jamie)

Day 4:

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J$ lynch (easy lynch) - Herm on it. Farlig, Nick, Vic, Spin, Nofo left as unknowns on it (take out vic and nofo, imo - nick, spin and farlig look bad) Lamps lynch - merc was on this early, and mittens ended up here (to not be on a town lynch of J$?) Assist Trophy - Helios, Mal, Zersch on it. [UPDATE - MAL AGAIN! Barrel [Mystery] - Jamie and Merc. We know how these flipped already.

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Herm lynch (was obvious by end of day thanks to Vic) - DS jumped on. Helios is the only other possible scum that could've jumped on (could definitely see scum trying to be on this lynch) Darren Sanders lynch - Angi and Ahoda stayed on Helios lynch - Wikey, Farlig (why were they on this?) scope - spin alone (interesting spot to be that day... what did he do with it?) deku nut - mal and merc Smash to vic - herm was on it. rest were town (spin voted to smash DS at one point...) UPDATE - Mal and merc both hid on the nut? Not sure why they'd be on the same item unless spin is mafia too and on the other item. BINGO!

Day 6:

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Badger lynch - this was town driven imo, but DS jumped on, then off once Angi jumped on. (says DS didn't want to be on a town lynch, may help angi's case) Dylan lynch - DS on most of the day. Farlig ended up here. Lamps lynch - mittens was here despite me continuously saying why he'd be town. DS lynch - Mal moved here late. What a great place to hide! no lynch - brian was here for some reason Super Star - Helios, Timmah (Helios could be scum trying to get this?) Bunny Hood - Nofo (all good here) Crate [Mystery] - Spin, Lamps, Ahoda (interesting spot for spin to be, again) UPDATE - Mal hiding on DS late knowing he wasn't getting lynched. Ahoda hiding on an item again.

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Mittens (6/8) - Spin, Angi, Brian, Timmah, Vic, Zersch [it was brian who really steered us this way with the discussion of similar roles, right? Ahoda said mitens over spin, too.] Spin (2/8) - Timmah, Mittens, Farlig, Mal Mal (1/8) - Helios Nofo (1/8) - Nofo Brian (0/8) - Curtis, Vic DID NOT VOTE: Wikey, Nick Items: ray gun - Curtis popcorn - ahoda Smash: Zersch (5/8) - Spin, Timmah, Vic, Helios, Brian Mal (2/8) - Mal, Ahoda, Angi UPDATE - This is very interesting. Ahoda helped pick mittens over spin, but was on an item ONCE AGAIN. Mal and Ahoda BOTH voting to smash Mal. HMMM! Perhaps Ahoda needed the popcorn because he knew his mafia buddy Mal was healing town for town cred, or to keep it from healing town?

Day8:

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Lynch: Angi (7/7) - Timmah, Curtis, Vic, Farlig, Brian, Angi, Ahoda Mal (2/7) - Helios, Nofo Nick (0/7) - Ahoda Spin (0/7) - Mal, Ahoda Curtis (0/7) - Angi Farlig (0/7) - Ahoda Items: Smart Bomb - Zersch Present [Mystery] - Mal Final Smash: Vic (6/7) - Brian, Vic, Ahoda, Timmah, Zersch, Mal Helios (1/7) - Helios Zersch (1/7) - Angi UPDATE - This train really formed late if I remember correctly and Angi did less than nothing to stop it. Mal on another item, again.

Day 9:

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Lynch: Spin (4/6) - Vic, Farlig, Mal, Vic, Brian Farlig (1/6) - Spin, Vic Mal (1/6) - Timmah, Helios Brian (0/6) - Ahoda Items: Star Rod - Ahoda, Helios Timer - Zersch Final Smash: Zersch (4/6) - Zersch, Ahoda, Spin, Timmah [I know I do not look great for voting Mal instead of spin, but I explained that best I could and I still think Mal is my top scum read. I think farlig looks better because spin was going after him, though it could be distancing. Ahoda is on an item AGAIN. He's been on items most of the game, instead of voting.

New conclusion: It could definitely still be Mal AND ahoda

I will say that in the last day, Mal did make it a tie between spin and farlig.

Malion 🏴 @ 24/1/2017 12:14

I just don't get this huge wank over that stupid party ball. Look at day two. There was a mystery item and no scum on it. So please shut the fuck up about scum having to be in every conga line it's not a solid theory.

So far every single person that has told me my theories were complete shit has ended up being mafia.

What will the golden hammer do? Feels like we should be careful with who gets that.