So Jay actually said some things that were true!? Amazing!

So Curtis has to be that last mafia, right? And wikey has to be on the mafia team that lamps was on. There was just too much that reads as them working off of one another, trying to keep the focus on the list too.

Vlady survived, but Jay gave him a vest. Or did he? Jay's batting about .105 on truth telling so far. But Ari survived as well. So, maybe Jay told us 2 true things and Ari is second GF.

In reading yesterday, how did everyone just let boc off without ever claiming? We had people pushing for focus on the zook list, even for boc, without even bothering to see if he'd ever actually claimed.

Oh, and reading yesterday I had the feeling that herm was also defending lamps as a scum buddy. But, that thought wasn't as strong as what I read from wikey and lamps.

Since ignoring the list has been suggested, if we do that I'm lynching wikey/Ari, then zero (for defending redster pretty hard and then just disappearing since), then Vlady (something is off about Vlady this game)

Patrick has pretty much just been drive by voting all game. I expect that from Chris and Vernon, but dunno on Patrick. That normal behavior?

thisisbad @ 11/4/2016 21:25

Christian @ 11/4/2016 20:24 Curtis @ 11/4/2016 21:20 ##Unlynch ##Lynch Ari Ari if we wanna take out a likely Raider Wikey if we wanna take out a definite Environmentalist Boc if we wanna end the list and take out a likely Raider There may be a way to accomplish a couple things today. WE need a grenade

Lol, do tell Christian.

Anyone think Jay will pop in and tell us if he really did give Vlady a vest?

I've been operating under the idea that with 2 mafias, boc can't be mafia traitor. I suppose one of the mafias could've started at less strength though but with boc who had access to the vigs? Just don't see why he'd not have left zook alive to control the kill. Someone mentioned that zook wanted to kill rose, so maybe that's what happened. Seems hard to believe, but this game hasn't exactly been usual.

IF that's true, then that puts Ari and boc on Rose's mafia team. Since I'm not sold on the boc theory yet, I leaning Ari.

I was trying to post when the game locked, and then I had 5 pages to catch up on after taking the time to actually do some work.

Ari is town BP? unlikely
Curtis is clearly Raider mafia, unless he's done some serious distancing.
If Ari is raider GF, then Curtis has done some serious distancing one way or the other though.

New order of lynching from my perspective:
Curtis/Ari - whichever as both are scum
Wikey - despite his protests to the contrary, I think he's scum (groundbreaking, I know)
Jay - we have to lynch the Cult at some point, right?
Zero - I'm never letting his protection of Redster slip under the radar!

People I'm NOT lynching:
Timmah
Christian

People I'm not inclined to lynch right now:
Herm - reflected a bit on his "defense" of Lamps in light of my read of the rest of his play and am leaning town
Chris - just a gut feeling

People I could be talked into lynching:
Vlady - there's still something off, and his survival doesn't mean he's town
Sab -
TIB - When I first started this post, I had a thought that he was one of the mafias specifically, but now that thought escapes me. I'll remember it shortly I'm sure
Patrick - UTR and just drive by voting - not town behavior
Vernon - useless, just drive by voting

I think that covers everyone?

Didn't mean to leave a comment off of Sab. I just don't remember anything he's really said in the game.

@Christian - that bullet had to be either for Curtis or Boc, there was no way around that from my perspective.

I didn't read the last day until it was over other than to skim the last few pages since it was right near the deadline when I got back in town.

I voted Lamps over Curtis because Lamps had clearly lied several times to us, and because there appeared to be mass confusion over whether it was Curtis or Boc. Though I skimmed that confusion, it was real, as evidenced by my later reading and then today.

I am about to be out in a meeting for the next few hours. I've already said I'm lynching either Curtis or Ari.