Vernon, any reason I'm your top suspect? I'll harp on D2 if you think I'm mafia, because I don't think that chaos can be ignored. I was gone, as I posted I would be, when the vote moved from Jay to wikey. I can't say I'd have changed though because I had no real read on Jay and at least had a theory on wikey - which I discussed yesterday.

I think Ahoda was a good vig target. I am a little surprised at his flip honestly.

Shocking, but JC isn't someone I want to lynch today.

This site always rings up someone when they survive so I'm going to be really interested to see if that pattern suddenly alters for some people.

Speaking of, Bryce has been itching to claim for 4 days now despite not having any real pressure since D2. Why is that? His play has been discussed most of the game as being fishy, and he's yet to really add anything helpful that I can recall. There's more ways than 1 he could know who the vig is. Hell, I think I know who it is and I don't have any special power to tell me. I'm interested in how he plays this.

Im still suspicious of wikey for the reasons I posted yesterday. Curtis all of your thoughts on Bryce being town are completely predicated on wikey not being mafia. They could easily be aligned together as not town, and they saved wikey over Jay.

I need more from Brian, im317 and badger today. I'd like angi's thoughts too. I've been thinking herm is town, but each passing town death makes me question that more and more.

Well, after being suspicious of him when doing my thoughts and then reading his writeup, I buy Bryce's claim. So there's that

I don't see how a bus would affect pat's investigation of Vernon unless he just wasnt told whether who he got innocent on after he put in the action to investigate Vernon

My reads have been turned upside down a bit. I can do better with who I would not want to lynch:

Timmah
JC
Bryce
Vernon
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Angi
Herm

After this I'm pretty up in the air.

Ari lynched miko D2
Vic lynched Jay yesterday
Brian is said to have visited me and nothing happened to me that I was told about.
Im317 lynched jay yesterday (right?)
Curtis swapped to Jay yesterday
Badger is an unknown
Wikey is an unknown

If wikey is scum, that flips all those jay votes on its head

That's twice now wikey has been saved by a lynch swap. I guess I still want to lynch wikey.

I thought Vic swapped to Jay? I'll need to go back and look at that again

Curtis @ 21/1/2016 21:29

Timmah @ 21/1/2016 21:14 I don't see how a bus would affect pat's investigation of Vernon unless he just wasnt told whether who he got innocent on after he put in the action to investigate Vernon Most hosts here wouldn't tell. He'd be under the impression he was still scanning Vernon

Oh really?

Lol @ Vernon.

That final count was messed up btw.

Voting Jay - Vic, badger, herm, Curtis, 317, Bryce
Voting wikey - Ahoda, Vernon, JC, timmah (Jay with a vote that didn't count)
Voting Brian - Ari
Voting im317 - wikey
Not voting - Angi

Assuming pat wasnt bussed from investigating Vernon and he is not gf, then I found out last night that there wasn't any mafia on wikey's vote to end the day. And Jay flipped mafia. That's pretty odd if wikey isn't mafia.

##lynch wikey

Either wikey is scum or Vern is mafia (maybe gf). Maybe I am missing a piece of the puzzle, but I don't see any way it's possible that one of those 2 things isn't true.

Vic @ 21/1/2016 21:41

Timmah @ 21/1/2016 21:36 Lol @ Vernon. That final count was messed up btw. Voting Jay - Vic, badger, herm, Curtis, 317, Bryce Voting wikey - Ahoda, Vernon, JC, timmah (Jay with a vote that didn't count) Voting Brian - Ari Voting im317 - wikey Not voting - Angi Assuming pat wasnt bussed from investigating Vernon and he is not gf, then I found out last night that there wasn't any mafia on wikey's vote to end the day. And Jay flipped mafia. That's pretty odd if wikey isn't mafia. Are you assuming from this that there are also not Mafia on Jay's train or that there are?

I'm not currently making any assumptions about the votes on Jay. My mind was pretty much blown when I figured out the part about wikey's votes given Jay's flip.

Bryce @ 21/1/2016 21:42

I can totally understand scum willingly voting out one of their own if it's someone like Wikey who hasn't been helping them much, but I would imagine they would probably only want to do so to save one of their own, more active members. Trying to sacrifice Wikey for Jay doesn't make much sense because they both weren't very active and it's not like Jay's role was that beneficial for scum. Like sure, PGO is good to have but it's not like he was GF.

Could have to do with one scum role versus the other? I'm not sure. I'm 50/50 on wikey versus Vernon at the moment

Didn't Patrick scan Vernon like N1, before he claimed? I need to go back and look into that too. Wouldve been an interesting choice for dadd to have bussed Vernon with someone unless they just figured he'd get investigated because of the leader votes?

Vic @ 21/1/2016 21:58

Also Timmah why would you be willing to lynch me today??

I'm not sure I would. My first list was more based on who I was confident in not lynching. Of course that's now also been blown to shit!

Herm @ 21/1/2016 22:00

I'd be interested to take a harder look at Wikey actually, he hasn't really been around much and since it does look like Timmah could be town based on Bryce's intel I don't think it's a mistake not to look into it. Out of interest, who lynched Wikey D2 and D5?

D2: Ahoda, JC, badger, Vic

Miko was on there too until he swapped to Titan at the end.

Vic @ 21/1/2016 22:00

Vern For Mod 2016 @ 21/1/2016 18:16 Bryce you got some explaining to do :) Sorry to see you go Ahoda - but as you were a suspect for many of us this should help us to go after better targets. The more I saw yesterday unfold the more I realized that Jay was probably scum- I did want to leave my vote on Wikey though for pressure but I was monitoring the board to make sure he wasn't pushed higher than Jay. I strongly believe that people voting for Wikey with me were probably scum, or at least one of them My main suspect now is .. ## lynch Timmah BUT if Wikey is town I don't like this post. Trying to cover himself up by not lynching a scum buddy?? Idk anymore I really don't

Uh, Vern, if you "realized" Jay was probably scum, what good did it do to leave your vote on wikey as the lynch moved? Only thing I can think of is distancing from wikey.