Timmah @ 30/5/2017 22:20

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:01 I wish they had killed me, I can't believe I was wrong about him ugh. I can. Primate seemed pretty town the entire game. Meta, but he doesn't play that aggressively usually when scum. At least not for that protracted length of time. Does Primate's flip and his saying that he didn't use his role until N2 put Angi squarely back on the hot seat?

Where did he say that? I looked back and couldn't find what you were referring to, but this post kinda gives me the opposite impression.

Primate on Day 4

If Angi sent me something N1, I wouldn't have received it.

Timmah @ 30/5/2017 22:29

-1 ???? That was janitored - He was clearly town and the mafia is using his role as a claim - Would it make sense for Angi to be using Curtis' role. Not sure it does, but worth a thought.

But then how does she know that Tib received an item the day he was silenced?

Tib, what is your read on Timmah? It's possible I could be tunneling on him, but he is coming off very scummy to me.

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That Zach lynch is being used as evidence of "town" by several people. I would not be surprised to find third party in those 3, thinking that they'd get an extra night for mafia to whittle down the numbers even more and help push them further to end game. Remember, third party can hide by "scum hunting" mafia pretty effectively.

If there is a third party in that trio who voted out Zach, I think it's Vlady, not Angi. She has remained a proactive town member since then, and she has a lot of evidence backing up her claim IMO.

Vlady did attract my attention Day 1, when he took interest in DS's claim of there being a 'both' category in his role. Mainly because I feel like Chaos Mafia kinda implies that it helps both town and mafia in different ways, but only people who knew the name of the faction at that point would be able to draw that type of connection. He explained it the next day, but it could be worth looking further into I guess.

I still have a town impression of him overall though.

*In DS's COMPLETELY FAKE FUCKING ROLE

thisisbad @ 30/5/2017 22:41

Out of the "cleared" group timmah still comes in second to kiwi to me. Many of his posts seem to be spent on people I think are town pretty clearly. He def doesn't give me a good vibe. I hope he doesn't read this and know I was talking bad about him

I'll cover for you bro.

Timmah. We were just talking about... ummmm... pineapple on pizza and NOTHING more.

Timmah @ 30/5/2017 22:45

thisisbad @ 30/5/2017 21:41 Out of the "cleared" group timmah still comes in second to kiwi to me. Many of his posts seem to be spent on people I think are town pretty clearly. He def doesn't give me a good vibe. I hope he doesn't read this and know I was talking bad about him There are a limited number of people left, so I am not really sure how you think I am spending my energy on people that you think are town? Feel free to take my multiple posts from today in which I am clearly communicating my thoughts on every player left in the game and tell me where you disagree, though. I welcome additional discussion or some information that I may have missed. You and Badger can both pretty easily figure out my role if you want to spend the time reading my posts and comparing them to actions that you know of.

Honestly Timmah, I hope my focusing on you isn't coming off as a vendetta. I just know that no matter what faction you get, you are a very strong player (I've seen you scum hunt really well as town, and I've also seen you deflect very well as scum). So when things feel even a little bit off, I get very concerned. And yesterday, I was not seeing eye to eye on anything you were posting.

Today, I am feeling a little better but still not sure.

And also, for the record Timmah I suck at picking up hints on roles. So do not expect me to be able to figure yours out. I generally scum hunt by going based off my more general impressions of the posts people make - who is posting a lot of misinformation, who seems to know more than everyone else, etc.

But I have a hard time finding the breadcrumbs that people supposedly lie in these threads.

Timmah @ 30/5/2017 22:50

Badger, you have a vendetta against me?!?! :(

Well yesterday I got the impression that you took my posts about you in that way lol.

My issue with the Stephen is scum argument is that THIS was the post that people jumped on:

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Okay, I'm going to go back to what I was originally doing and ##lynch Zachary It came down to just some skips in logic that I cannot make sense of. If killing the princess would have sent the game immediately into another night phase, Zachary should have claimed this after DS was killed since the likelihood of a strongman/etc role being used was high. Angi brought light to this and that makes complete sense to me. I don't get why Angi is lynching Maddie when she basically said that Zachary should have claimed, not claiming it seems more like something mafia would do. Idk. Also looking the role up, it's usually only a lynch that will send the game into two nights -- not a killing. The killing just doesn't make sense as a condition on the role.

Zach WAS the right call that day. And TBH I had similar concerns about Angi going into the next day.

People thought that this was his attempt to save Maddie and lynch Zach. They were correct. Why is this a bad thing?

##lynch Kiwi

Lets not hammer him but if we want this day thread to be active prolly a good idea to apply pressure early instead of simply waiting til an hour before deadline.

Miko, can you please come forward with the information you learned on Night 5? That you didn't want to reveal at the time?

Day 1	+
Spin (8/15) - DS, Merc, Josh, Lamps, Lamps, Mittens, Badger, Lamps, Stephen, Badger, Josh, Hern DS (5/15) - Timmah, Primate, Ahoda, Mittens, Badger, Josh, im317, Spin, Helios Merc (2/15) - Angi, Boc Curtis (1/15) - Sock Josh (1/15) - Nofo Patrick (1/15) - Ahoda Stephen (0/15) - Primate, Stephen Ahoda (0/15) - Nofo Farlig (0/15) - Ahoda Lamps (0/15) - Spin

Day 2	+
Mittens (10/14) - Merc, Josh, Ahoda, Helios, Angi, Sock, Boc, im317, Lamps, Kiwi, Hern Vlady (1/14) - Curtis Patrick (1/14) - Angi Merc (1/14) - Mittens Curtis (0/14) - Sock

Day 3	+
Ahoda (13/13) - Farlig, Nofo, im317, TIB, Helios, Maddie, Angi, ZacharyB, Hern, Miko, Merc, Josh, Ahoda Merc (2/13) - Angi, Primate, Vlady, TIB Miko (1/13) - Sock Patrick (0/13) - Ahoda Dr (0/13) - ZacharyB Maddie (0/13) - Merc Farlig (0/13) - Maddie Helios (0/13) - Hern

Day 4	+
Maddie (6/11) - Kiwi, Angi, Merc, Zach, Josh, Miko, Helios ZacharyB (4/11) - Merc, Angi, Badger, im317, Vlady, Merc, Stephen, Josh, Primate, Helios, Stephen Angi (1/11) - ZacharyB Merc (1/11) - Primate Stephen (1/11) - Timmah, Zach Primate (0/11) - Badger, Merc Badger (0/11) - Angi

Day 5	+
ZacharyB (3/9) - TIB, Badger, Angi, Vlady, Sock, Angi Nofo (2/9) - Hern, TIB, Hern Stephen (2/9) - Primate, ZacharyB Brian (1/9) - Sock Helios (0/9) - Sock Angi (0/9) - Sock

Day6	+
Nofo (7/8) - Angi, Miko, Badger, TIB, TIB, Hern, Merc, Stephen Sock (1/8) - Hern, Vlady Brian (1/8) - Sock, Badger Stephen (1/8) - Timmah Primate (0/8) - Merc, TIB/ Merc (0/8) - Angi, Kiwi, Timmah

Day 7	+
Vote Count: Primate (4/7) - Miko, Kiwi, Mercator, Badger Boc (2/7) - Hern, Timmah Kiwi (1/7) - vladykins

Mercator @ 30/5/2017 23:13

Timmah @ 30/5/2017 19:20 Mercator @ 30/5/2017 21:01 I wish they had killed me, I can't believe I was wrong about him ugh. I can. Primate seemed pretty town the entire game. Meta, but he doesn't play that aggressively usually when scum. At least not for that protracted length of time. Does Primate's flip and his saying that he didn't use his role until N2 put Angi squarely back on the hot seat? Primate implied that he used it N1 (saying no one would have visited him then) on D4, but Herm's investigation failed on him failed N2 according to Herm. For Angi to be scum and using Curtis' role as a claim, she would need to be aligned with TIB, since he would have to be lying about getting the item from her. TBH I can see it because that her invention intercepted N1 sounds like BS, not sold though.

Angi's claim of the failed invention gift came before Primate admitted to using the ability. I don't see how she could have known that it would fail AND know that Tib received a gift night 3 (especially considering she has been essential to most maf lynches so far).

Angi, if you are reading this, have more confidence in your reads in the future. You've been kicking ass this game.

IDK why I said 'if you are reading this' when you're still alive.

So melodramatic. LMAO.