Don't really know what to do now.

Is Joshie actually bad? Is it Zach? Primate has sounded like a 3p all game to me.

If Joshie is scum, town didn't have a Watcher?

7 Mafia have flipped so far. There has to be only 1 more unless there was a traitor. But I don't think we had a missing mafia kill on any day.

So at the very least we aren't in MyLo or LyLo yet.

I think I have to assume that Maddie and Zach are town here. Primate is either Town or 3p. Josh is, hopefully, the last Mafia.

Mads @ 10/2/2018 10:34

The Sebneet @ 10/2/2018 14:31 If Joshie is scum, town didn't have a Watcher? It's possible we did and they just died before they got a chance to use that action? We only see the last successful action, not all of the options.

Possible but why would a Watcher not use that action.

Also, now that I think about it, if Joshie watched me on night 1, I feel like he'd be told about Zach trying to visit me? How do hosts handle Watchers + Commuters. Because the flavor we have dealt with so far is related to people's houses. And with a Watcher, Josh would be watching my house to see who visited. Flavor wise, I think Zach got told that he came to my house and no one was there. But Josh should have still been able to see Zach.

I'm gonna reread some of the last days before casting a vote. There's too few of us left and a speed mis-lynch is no bueno

Mads @ 10/2/2018 10:27

At least DS' death will make this vote a little easier lmao. Nav I really thought they'd go for you. I'm glad you safely commuted.

How do you know I commuted?

DS' hammer on Buffy out of nowhere did spook me yesterday. But I think I would have Townread him today if he was still alive.

Given everything with Madz and Buffy I have to believe she's town. If she isn't I have no problems losing to Mafia Madz here because that will have been a magnificent performance.

I remember Town leaning on Bisson because he tried to get a Dadd lynch going during the Patrick vote. But I will have to re-read that.

I think the fact that Josh only has 1 Watch result and it involves 2 Mafia makes him look real bad. I will go back and check if it's even possible Herm visited Canuck the night Josh said he did. If there were multiple dance deaths that night then Josh is basically caught scum.

ZacharyB @ 10/2/2018 11:16

Also, do you guys think we had two townies trying to find people?

No. I'm almost certain Primate is 3p. Like a failed Cult recruiter.

Mads @ 10/2/2018 11:19

The Sebneet @ 10/2/2018 15:11 I think the fact that Josh only has 1 Watch result and it involves 2 Mafia makes him look real bad. I will go back and check if it's even possible Herm visited Canuck the night Josh said he did. If there were multiple dance deaths that night then Josh is basically caught scum. In the words of the beloved Darren Sanders, "Game Solved."

Well I just checked. Joshie said Herm visited Canuck on N3. And we only had 2 deaths on N3 - Angi and im317. So at least if he is making up results, he's doing a great job at it (which well he's Joshie. He's pretty awesome)

It's POSSIBLE that Herm made Canuck unlynchable that night. I don't know WHY but it's possible.

Josh @ 10/2/2018 12:02

Mads @ 10/2/2018 15:01 Also DS and Nav had more powerful roles. Definitely bigger targets than dumbass little me. I figured DS was going to redirect actions from himself onto someone else. I didn't think scum would risk going after him and possibly killing themselves.

Wait this is a good point. DS said the way he's been using his role was to pick himself and someone else. So how was he the only death last night.

Mads @ 10/2/2018 12:09

Another option: Josh is a godfather equivalent so DS made an attack on himself deflect to Josh, but Josh can't be killed at night so DS died.

Ok. This does make a lot of sense. I'm pretty sure DS had been using his action on himself and someone else repeatedly. So this has to be it. Whoever DS picked last night with himself has BP protection. That's why DS was the only death.

And Joshie, this points most to you than anyone else. DS had been suspecting you for a long time now.

I just have to think if it's possible for Joshie to be a BP GF while also having so many "watch" results.

I think the way DS' role worked was not to deflect actions but to duplicate them. I remember reading it like that. Like anything that happens to Player A also happens to Player B. So if he picks himself and someone else, and he dies then Player also dies.

Josh @ 10/2/2018 12:47

Either way, I think it would be odd for a godfather to have a watching ability on top of everything else.

I'm just trying to think if you actually have given any results that you couldn't have deduced from reading the thread or them being given to you by one of your scummates

Bisson, I need you to say things. Who do you wanna lynch. Who do you not wanna lynch.