So uh, I thought Josh was claiming Vengeful at the end of D3.

So there were 3 kills/attempts last night? vlady, Sock and jamie?

Herm @ 13/11/2017 15:32

I think Jamie/Sock kill is related, so two kills?

It is? I'm unclear on why. I skimmed the flavor.

Herm @ 13/11/2017 15:34

Also, did Vlady lie about his role? Didn't he have a doll?

vlady said he got a doll from someone else which he theorized is a 3p role called Creepy Girl.

I miss your rhymes jamie Eles

Ben @ 13/11/2017 15:49

Vic @ 13/11/2017 19:41 If anyone is scum on the johnny train I'd guess Ben and then maybe JJ Wrong about me Vic. Today is the day I’m going to change shit up. I want to know who everyone has as their top 4 scum reads, it’s time for a fatal four way.

Disclaimer: My reads have been REALLY bad.

Top town reads:
Brian
Zach
Herm
Patrick
DS
Vic (begrudgingly)

Top scum reads:
Chris
JJ
Dadd
Josh

Undecided:
Everyone else

ZacharyB @ 13/11/2017 16:01

can we stop saying cult that word literally triggers me

Zach is cult recruiter confirmed

##lynch Zach

The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 16:02

Ben @ 13/11/2017 19:00 If sock was the cult recruiter, I’m playing the lotto. no cult unless they didn't recruit the night I was a lightning rod

Does lightning rod give them the option of not doing an action? I assumed lightning rod meant everyone's actions get redirected onto one person whether they submit or no. I could be wrong about this though.

JJ @ 13/11/2017 16:04

Vic @ 13/11/2017 19:41 If anyone is scum on the johnny train I'd guess Ben and then maybe JJ Lol coming from you this is funny since I only think you're town because no one cc'd you. Otherwise you've been super scummy and i feel like people are just piling on saying that about me at this point. I do want to ask those in the know if john cena seemed like a scum character btw? Since Nav's the one who had me thinking vic's character makes sense as town. John cena is the only one ive heard of so far. Ok that took forever on my pho e, bbl

This is a good point btw. John Cena in WWE is a hero archetype. Him being Mafia did come as a bit of a surprise.

So I can't say with absolute certainty that a Roman Reigns character will be town aligned.

Don't kill me Ben. I lowkey defended you on D3

The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 15:51

Ben @ 13/11/2017 18:51 The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 19:45 ZacharyB @ 13/11/2017 18:44 JAMie do you know for certain you were targeted by mafia I know I was targeted, feel pretty confident it was by the mafia So you think the mafia had two attacks last night? No, just one

If I'm reading this right (which I am not at all confident that I am) then Sock died from a failed recruitment or like hiding behind the wrong person?

The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 16:33

Josh @ 13/11/2017 19:30 To clear up confusion, I was claiming princess yesterday. That's what I was assuming, vengeful is much better used getting lynched since if known we can try and get a scummy person on the end of the lynch to die also. killing vengeful at night is a waste of a roll, see vlady. Not sure how or why people thought you were claiming vengeful

From Hollywood Mafia

"You are the Beloved Princess Buttercup. You are loved by all in Florian and your death would certainly require more time to mourn than anyone else. If you die either by lynch or killed at night, the following day phase will be skipped in your honor, moving to the next night phase."

How is getting killed at night instead of lynching better if Josh is Princess? Or are there multiple variants. Because the Princess was night killed in Hollywood and the result was the same (Day phase skipped)

Josh @ 13/11/2017 16:50

It say it only activates if I am lynched. Killing me any other way won't skip the day phase.

You're a cute Princess if this is true.

I'll ask my usual question about setup.

30 players at the start

8 mafia
4 third party
18 Town

Sound about right?

My suspicions on Dadd are mostly related to how he came out of lurking and had a significant enough reaction to my one lynch vote on him near the end of D3.