Go get em Igor

Curtis @ 22/9/2017 8:51

Bye everyone we're gonna get nuked it's been fun

At least you're not on the west coast. :merc:

McCain is a no on Graham-Cassidy. Collins leaning no.

But Lisa Murkowski? There are rumors the GOP are trying to strike a deal with her that would let Alaska keep Obamacare, basically.

https://www.bustle.com/p/graham-cassidy-could-exempt-sen-lisa-murkowskis-state-in-exchange-for-her-vote-2428124

While the Dems can suck at times, this is a fun one for those who say there are no differences between Reps and Dems:

Quote

"I made a comment recently where I claimed that Republican administrations had been much more criminally corrupt over the last 50 plus years than the Democrats. I was challenged (dared actually) to prove it. So I did a bit of research and when I say a bit I mean it didn't take long and there is no comparison. When comparing criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations, it's so lopsided as to be ridiculous. Yet all I ever hear about is how supposedly "corrupt" the Democrats are. So why don't we break it down by president and the numbers? Obama (D) - 8 yrs in office. Zero criminal indictments, zero convictions and zero prison sentences. So the next time somebody describes the Obama administration as "scandal free" they aren't speaking wishfully, they're simply telling the truth. Bush, George W. (R) - 8 yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences. Clinton (D) - 8 yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. One conviction. One prison sentence. That's right nearly 8 yrs of investigations. Tens of millions spent and 30 yrs of claiming them the most corrupt ever and there was exactly one person convicted of a crime. Bush, George H. W. (R) - 4 yrs in office. One indictment. One conviction. One prison sentence. Reagan (R) - 8 yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences. Carter (D) - 4 yrs in office. One indictment. Zero convictions and zero prison sentences. Ford (R) - 4 yrs in office. One indictment and one conviction. One prison sentence. Nixon (R) - 6 yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences. Johnson (D) - 5 yrs in office. Zero indictments. Zero convictions. Zero prison sentences. So, let’s see where that leaves us. In the last 53 years, Democrats have been in the Oval Office for 25 of those years, while Republicans held it for 28. In their 25 yrs in office Democrats had a total of three executive branch officials indicted with one conviction and one prison sentence. That's one whole executive branch official convicted of a crime in two and a half decades of Democrat leadership. In the 28 yrs that Republicans have held office over the last 53 yrs they have had a total of (a drum roll would be more than appropriate), 120 criminal indictments of executive branch officials. 89 criminal convictions and 34 prison sentences handed down. That's more prison sentences than years in office since 1968 for Republicans. If you want to count articles of impeachment as indictments (they aren't really but we can count them as an action), both sides get one more. However, Clinton wasn't found guilty while Nixon resigned and was pardoned by Ford (and a pardon carries with it a legal admission of guilt on the part of the pardoned). So those only serve to make Republicans look even worse. With everything going on with Trump and his people right now, it's a safe bet Republicans are gonna be padding their numbers a bit real soon. So let's just go over the numbers one more time, shall we? 120 indictments for Republicans. 89 convictions, and 34 prison sentences. Those aren't "feelings" or "alternate facts." Those are simply the stats by the numbers. Republicans are, and have been for my entire lifetime, the most criminally corrupt party to hold the office of the presidency. So those are the actual numbers. Feel free to copy and paste!" - Kevin G Shinnick.

Come on guys, get REAL, the world isn't going to end because of these fools



Everybody knows it's really going to end when Nibiru collides with Earth in 2030 and the Annuaki restore their dictatorship over humanity.

Man, you guys really do believe some crazy shit sometimes :lol:

Is anybody else really disappointed that Kim Jung Un is such a wrong'un?

He looks so jolly.

oops wrong thread

Wikey @ 23/9/2017 9:44

Come on guys, get REAL, the world isn't going to end because of these fools Everybody knows it's really going to end when Nibiru collides with Earth in 2030 and the Annuaki restore their dictatorship over humanity. Man, you guys really do believe some crazy shit sometimes :lol:

I understand that's about the same time when D3 of The Wire Mafia opens.

vladykins @ 23/9/2017 6:27

While the Dems can suck at times, this is a fun one for those who say there are no differences between Reps and Dems: Quote "I made a comment recently where I claimed that Republican administrations had been much more criminally corrupt over the last 50 plus years than the Democrats. I was challenged (dared actually) to prove it. So I did a bit of research and when I say a bit I mean it didn't take long and there is no comparison. When comparing criminal indictments of those serving in the executive branch of presidential administrations, it's so lopsided as to be ridiculous. Yet all I ever hear about is how supposedly "corrupt" the Democrats are. So why don't we break it down by president and the numbers? Obama (D) - 8 yrs in office. Zero criminal indictments, zero convictions and zero prison sentences. So the next time somebody describes the Obama administration as "scandal free" they aren't speaking wishfully, they're simply telling the truth. Bush, George W. (R) - 8 yrs in office. 16 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 9 prison sentences. Clinton (D) - 8 yrs in office. 2 criminal indictments. One conviction. One prison sentence. That's right nearly 8 yrs of investigations. Tens of millions spent and 30 yrs of claiming them the most corrupt ever and there was exactly one person convicted of a crime. Bush, George H. W. (R) - 4 yrs in office. One indictment. One conviction. One prison sentence. Reagan (R) - 8 yrs in office. 26 criminal indictments. 16 convictions. 8 prison sentences. Carter (D) - 4 yrs in office. One indictment. Zero convictions and zero prison sentences. Ford (R) - 4 yrs in office. One indictment and one conviction. One prison sentence. Nixon (R) - 6 yrs in office. 76 criminal indictments. 55 convictions. 15 prison sentences. Johnson (D) - 5 yrs in office. Zero indictments. Zero convictions. Zero prison sentences. So, let’s see where that leaves us. In the last 53 years, Democrats have been in the Oval Office for 25 of those years, while Republicans held it for 28. In their 25 yrs in office Democrats had a total of three executive branch officials indicted with one conviction and one prison sentence. That's one whole executive branch official convicted of a crime in two and a half decades of Democrat leadership. In the 28 yrs that Republicans have held office over the last 53 yrs they have had a total of (a drum roll would be more than appropriate), 120 criminal indictments of executive branch officials. 89 criminal convictions and 34 prison sentences handed down. That's more prison sentences than years in office since 1968 for Republicans. If you want to count articles of impeachment as indictments (they aren't really but we can count them as an action), both sides get one more. However, Clinton wasn't found guilty while Nixon resigned and was pardoned by Ford (and a pardon carries with it a legal admission of guilt on the part of the pardoned). So those only serve to make Republicans look even worse. With everything going on with Trump and his people right now, it's a safe bet Republicans are gonna be padding their numbers a bit real soon. So let's just go over the numbers one more time, shall we? 120 indictments for Republicans. 89 convictions, and 34 prison sentences. Those aren't "feelings" or "alternate facts." Those are simply the stats by the numbers. Republicans are, and have been for my entire lifetime, the most criminally corrupt party to hold the office of the presidency. So those are the actual numbers. Feel free to copy and paste!" - Kevin G Shinnick.

I won't even get into the sales job of bringing up indictment numbers to prove a lack of corruption. I can't make you undrink your koolaid.

The impeachment game is fascinating to me. Clinton and Nixon were both guilty of high crimes, yet neither was removed from office by the senate via the impeachment process. In fact, nobody ever has been. That's a huge indictment against the system as a whole, and really shouldn't be used to try and prop up either party.

Did Clinton and Nixon both obstruct justice? Absolutely! Were they punished by a mob of their cronies for it? Absolutely not! The bigger question is should Clinton have ever been questioned about extramarital affairs. I tend to say no. Others disagree. If the pubs were smart they would have just had Monica file sexual harassment charges. That would have probably carried more weight and more real consequences than the toothless and expensive impeachment process.

The pub goal with the Clinton deal was obviously to create a distraction, gather political leverage, and keep the other party too busy to accomplish much. History says that was the case with the Johnson impeachment trial that happened back when Vlady was in high school. I have no idea if that was the case with Nixon or if it will prove to be the case with Trump? I do tend to think the Nixon case was more than political maneuvering, but it's hard to say.

Primate @ 24/9/2017 8:46

History says that was the case with the Johnson impeachment trial that happened back when Vlady was in high school.

I lolled.

For those who don't know their history, he's referring to Andrew Johnson (impeachment happened in 1868).

lel orange one tries to shit on the NFL, but in turn makes the protest grow exponentially. good shit

Even shit stain Rex Ryan is pissed at Trump now

I wonder if Belichick/Kraft/Brady have any regrets now

Boc @ 24/9/2017 20:45

I wonder if Belichick/Kraft/Brady have any regrets now