The longer DS lives the scummier he looks but I’m sure he knows that.

Yeah what was that acronym he came up with?

Snowflake poker @ 31/12/2017 18:09

The longer DS lives the scummier he looks but I’m sure he knows that.

I suspected him and Primate from day 1 when they colluded.

Porl only posts were D1 with 2 Herm lynches being included in those posts.

Forgive me if someone already did this, but some of the flips mean we can update this:

Herm @ 30/12/2017 22:49

Sebta Claus DAY 4 N1 - 3 kills brian - In-law or Kids (based on the others, likely killed by kids table) Cultis - Sock claimed this. (Sock was SK, bet he did kill Curtis) Ahoda - Vig/SK (ahoda was kids table, likely killed by inlaws - nav deception here) If Sock is SK we seem to be missing a kill here. (Nope, more nav deception) N2 - 4 kills Christian - Hid behind Lamps Ben - Vig or In-laws or Kids (Ben was kids table - so this was In Laws kill - nav deception here) vlady - Sock claimed this (sk kill) Patrick - Vig or In-laws or Kids ( leaves Patrick to be kills by kids table) Again if Sock is SK we seem to be missing a kill again (nope, more nav deception) N3 - 3 kill/attempts Zersch - In-laws or kids. Hopefully Vig wasn't dumb enough to shoot Zersch here but it looks pretty clear that Vig shot Sock (could be socks kill bc he hinted at seeing a cc to socks claim) TiB - In-laws or kids. ( his flip will tell us which of kids table or in law this was) Sock - Vig (one of bad guy factions bought his clai I bet - TiB flip should tell us which) Sock claims to have been blocked. (Sock lied most likely, so one of those kills was probably his) So there were 3 kill attempts outside of Sock. Something doesn't add up here. (More nav deception).

My thoughts are in the ( )

Herm @ 30/12/2017 23:23

If I had a gun TIB would be a good person to kill.

bad idea imo, he survived one kill already, could maybe survive a day kill.

Primate @ 31/12/2017 1:15

Tib, herm, bryce are my best guesses at scum, but t.t. and mads also pushed sk sock over mafia herm.

TT cleared by Christian i thought? thought good question about would hider die hiding behind Godfather?

Herm @ 31/12/2017 3:48

Rose clued us in on Lamps so she's at the very least not In-Law. Possibly Mafia. Not sure what to think of Merc, im317 and PORL.

someone else pointed it out i think but Rose only real participation was to solve the clue Christian left. maybe Kids Table that read about it on scum board?

##lynch TIB

don't buy the claim and this only puts him at 6/9. wanted to lynch Sock day 4 but had no clue what the vote count was.

So, based on every day until today, the kills line up for their being 2 mafias and a SK, with no vig. 3 kills last night could be any number of thing, including skit.

People are getting gifts though, so that could explain it. In this setup I’d think 4-5 max per mafia, plus the SK (and maybe skit).

Right now I trust:
Myself
TT - christian his behind N1
Primate - role seems town to me

Want to trust:
DS - he’s either town or inlaw imo
Spin - hate his claim and play
Mads - seems trying to help
Farlig - I agreed with a lot of his posts, but with 2 mafias that makes it easier for mafia to play like town

Everyone else is a big ol’ ?

I missed that Primate quote focusing on me/TT. Calling us scummy for lynching caught scum when we don’t have solid proof that Herm is mafia is not only shady, but it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

I wish I had to,e to dig through everything today, because I think there’s enough info on the table to make some good reads and come to solid conclusions. We’re having a NYE party at the house tonight, though, and the wifey has me on lockdown

Oh I forgot deadline is tomorrow night. Today is gonna draaaaaaag.

Mads @ 31/12/2017 13:38

Oh I forgot deadline is tomorrow night. Today is gonna draaaaaaag.

Oh that’s good. I may have some time to be hungover and look through it all tomorrow

Timmah @ 31/12/2017 13:30

So, based on every day until today, the kills line up for their being 2 mafias and a SK, with no vig. 3 kills last night could be any number of thing, including skit.

Going to quote myself from D4:

Helios

Buffy @ 28/12/2017 22:10 So, the fact that Lamps was a role cop makes it seem like there are two mafias. The whole Two Mafia thing is something I've been thinking about. The Kids Table people and the In-Law people seem to have the same wincon (gain the majority/eliminate all threats to their faction), so does this mean they're both scumteams? And if so, would that mean there's no Vig at all? Assuming Sock is SK, that gives us two faction kills + SK kill. Which would mean 1)there's no Vig and 2)some faction tried to kill SK Sock to set up a Vig claim. Unless one of the factions doesn't have a nightkill, in which case we could have factionkill + SK kill + Vig kill, which would make sense. Trying to figure this one out...

This was my main theory D4: Kids Table and In-Laws get a kill, plus SK Sock. Going back and looking, I see that Nav was the one arguing hardest against that theory. Based on number of kills up to that point, it's clear that both Kids Table and In-Laws have a night kill, which leads me to believe that I was right, there is no Vig, and In-Laws targeted Sock to set up something. So, looking at Timmah's updated nightkill list a few posts ago, and factoring in lying ass Nav, I'd guess this is how the kills broke down:

Night 1
Brian (Kids Table)
Curtis (Sock)
Ahoda (In-Laws)

Night 2
Christian (bad hiding choice)
Ben (In-Laws)
Vlady (Sock)
Patrick (Kids Table)

Night 3
Zersch (Sock)
TIB (Kids Table)
Sock (In-Laws)

Now, with Night 4, we have three kills again when we should, in theory, only have two: Nav, Chris, and Buffy. We know Nav wasn't killed by In-Laws, but we don't know who this new third kill belongs to. I've seen talk about Items passed out, so maybe someone has a one-shot they used? A SKIT could be a possibility as well.

on the bright side we have a good lynch for today already, and if there are 3 kills again tonight then its probably not the result of a 1 shot/gift and is in fact a SKiT. so it will probably sort itself out, but i agree there is no Vig(as i said last day phase as well)