So basicall if you ignore yesterday Tib looks scummy.

The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 16:33

Josh @ 13/11/2017 19:30 To clear up confusion, I was claiming princess yesterday. That's what I was assuming, vengeful is much better used getting lynched since if known we can try and get a scummy person on the end of the lynch to die also. killing vengeful at night is a waste of a roll, see vlady. Not sure how or why people thought you were claiming vengeful

From Hollywood Mafia

"You are the Beloved Princess Buttercup. You are loved by all in Florian and your death would certainly require more time to mourn than anyone else. If you die either by lynch or killed at night, the following day phase will be skipped in your honor, moving to the next night phase."

How is getting killed at night instead of lynching better if Josh is Princess? Or are there multiple variants. Because the Princess was night killed in Hollywood and the result was the same (Day phase skipped)

thisisbad @ 13/11/2017 19:46

So basicall if you ignore yesterday Tib looks scummy.

I think so?

Were you super townie the past day?

It say it only activates if I am lynched. Killing me any other way won't skip the day phase.

Josh @ 13/11/2017 16:50

It say it only activates if I am lynched. Killing me any other way won't skip the day phase.

You're a cute Princess if this is true.

Dwayne JohnSeb @ 13/11/2017 19:51

Josh @ 13/11/2017 16:50 It say it only activates if I am lynched. Killing me any other way won't skip the day phase. You're a cute Princess if this is true.

I'm always cute :')

Dwayne JohnSeb @ 13/11/2017 19:48

The Santa Pumpkin King @ 13/11/2017 16:33 Josh @ 13/11/2017 19:30 To clear up confusion, I was claiming princess yesterday. That's what I was assuming, vengeful is much better used getting lynched since if known we can try and get a scummy person on the end of the lynch to die also. killing vengeful at night is a waste of a roll, see vlady. Not sure how or why people thought you were claiming vengeful From Hollywood Mafia "You are the Beloved Princess Buttercup. You are loved by all in Florian and your death would certainly require more time to mourn than anyone else. If you die either by lynch or killed at night, the following day phase will be skipped in your honor, moving to the next night phase." How is getting killed at night instead of lynching better if Josh is Princess? Or are there multiple variants. Because the Princess was night killed in Hollywood and the result was the same (Day phase skipped)

it all depends on the mod, not saying I fully believe it but not something I really want to test rn especially if we have a vig out there still.

Dwayne JohnSeb @ 13/11/2017 20:51

Josh @ 13/11/2017 16:50 It say it only activates if I am lynched. Killing me any other way won't skip the day phase. You're a cute Princess if this is true.

Now that you mention it I’m not sure I’ve ever seen it without either skipping the day pause.

I'll ask my usual question about setup.

30 players at the start

8 mafia
4 third party
18 Town

Sound about right?

I read the last third of D2 and all of D3 this morning. Here are my thoughts, and then my list (will be long):

-I started the re-read of D2 looking at those who started out so sure of themselves that FC had to be scum just because farlig flipped town - that list, based on the way I read it, was Jake (third party), Patrick, Tim (mafia), im317, and Vic.
-no one has cc’d vic’s BP town claim, which is enough to put him further down my scum list for now, but could still be a fake claim I suppose.
-I’ll be interested to see how spin’s investigations play out from here. He could be insane or paranoid, there could be a framer involved, or he could just have made the whole thing up because the mafia has a role cop who got “poisoner” on spin and he went for the town cred. I lean town for now though.
-Did DS softclaim and “clear” Patrick? JJ posted that he did, and if that is true, then it changes my perspective of Patrick, because I’ve been reading him as scum mostly. I read DS as town.
-Herm and Tim both swapped votes onto Patrick sometime I think after that, which also helps with my more favorable reading of Patrick. Also lends to my scum read on Herm.
-Herm and Seb started the defense of Tim, but Lamps joined them and then a lot of people started posting the “dumb town” line.
-Tim flipped to a Ben lynch at one point, and Josh followed right along. Lends to my scum read on Josh. Josh’s princess claim reinforces that read.
-TIB tied the vote up between Tim and J$, and then Seb was really the hammer before Jamie hopped on late. That adds to a town read of both TIB and Seb UNLESS J$ is also scum and Tim was just the expendable one.

At the end of D2, my top scum reads were Patrick, im317, lamps, vlady, Jamie and Dadd, in more of less that order.

At the end of D3, my top scum reads changed a bit to Herm, Josh, vlady (I think he was playing scummy to potentially use his role), J$ (but, very back and forth on this based on the end of the day lynch, and if he is scum, especially mafia, that changes a lot of things for me), Dadd, JJ (something just seems different than normal town JJ), im317, lamps - more of less in that order.

Reads on everyone:

1. Seb - lean town, UNLESS J$ flips mafia (or at least not mafia)
3. Dadd - read as scum
4. Buffy - lean scum
5. Josh - read as scum
6. Timmah - is town
8. Jamie - read as town, but I have no idea what he’s hinting at with the targeting thing today
10. Herm - may be my top scum read
12. Lamps - lean scum, but not strongly
14. TIB - lean town IF J$ is not mafia (or at least not mafia)
15. Spin - lean town
16. Ben - not really sure, but he has a daykill I guess so shoot well!
18. Patrick - lean town based on the things I posted above because had been reading scum
19. Brian - read town, but maybe mafia inventor, especially if Herm ends up mafia?
21. im317 - slight scum read, but not strong
22. Ahoda - no real read
24. Darren Sanders - read town
25. Johnny Dollar - kinda read scum, but I’m really on the fence due to the end of last day
26. Zach - not sure
27. Mittens - read town
29. Chris - not sure
30. Vic - read town I think

Oh yeah, TiB vote flip was oddly timed on Tim, I think

Vic @ 13/11/2017 15:39

I would think the people that stayed on the johnny train would be more likely to be town. Wouldn't Mafia want to jump on voting for Tim since he was getting lynched anyway?

That Tim vote was very spur of the moment

I don’t have a daykill DADD.

I read TIB as Town cause of his vote for Tim. Unless like Timmah said, Johnny$ is mafia.

Dadd @ 13/11/2017 20:00

Oh yeah, TiB vote flip was oddly timed on Tim, I think

His flip to tie up the vote, helping lead to the lynching of a mafia member? You are playing very oddly imo, Dadd.

Also, I listed Zach as not sure, but forgot what was going on with him. Read him as town.

Tim at one point said he was up for a DADD lynch yesterday before his lynch gained any steam. Could totally be distancing, but I didn’t read it that way at the time.