Zersch @ 15/4/2017 0:54

That N1 survival probably gonna be hanging over your head today more than any previous day.

Yeah, I know. It's bound to get me lynched at some point. And at this point, with the roles known, there isn't any real benefit left for trying to make scum think about whether I can be killed, and we've already lynched some of those responsible anyway. I'm actually good to have in the game for them, as we've seen with several of them trying to nudge the lynch my way throughout the game.

Couple of thoughts:

Vic's mortician claim is a great scum claim - who is there to cc at this point, since the people who visited are dead and so are the watcher/tracker?

The mil vet claim from im317 is a decent scum claim too at this point, as it keeps the vig from targeting him.

For a lot of the last day and a half I was starting to think Angi was GF. I didn't originally because her claim didn't cc me exactly, and because nothing she posted sounded like she knew that her group tried to kill me. To make sure it is clear, she claimed she can choose when to be BP, While I started the game with two heart containers. With Chris' flip, I am back to thinking we are both town. I know I am, anyway.

Farlig's role would make sense as we haven't seen a town blocker. I haven't seen this variation of it where he can't block kills, but this game isn't normal.

The SK info in Curtis' flip is really interesting. We've basically had only what we have attributed to mafia and vig (Cherry) kills all game. There has been no FBI agent or other town claim that combats an arsonist or bomber type SK. I don't think I've seen a game with one of those where there was not a town way to counter, but this is definitely not a normal game. I have really read Cherry as town since he started posting late in D1, so if he's not an is really SK, he's played a hell of a game.

Has Jamie claimed? I honestly cannot remember what I am supposed to think about him.

The only thing that has me thinking town on Helios is the extra time that day. That's not a scum action I would think, but as I have said a few times, this isn't a typical game.

If all else fails, I am starting to consider that Zersch has played a good scum game. I still read him as town, but he's a little more unknown than some others in my mind. He's not a lynch candidate for today, or even tomorrow, barring something interesting happening, though.

Timmah @ 15/4/2017 1:28

If all else fails, I am starting to consider that Zersch has played a good scum game.

Outlandish!

Jamie claimed that his role made it passively impossible for him to be recruited into the Cult, and that if he actively visited someone the night they were recruited he would block the recruiting action.

I can see that as a plausible town claim.

So, realistically, I think we are down to:

Im317
Vic
Timmah
Angi
Zersch
Christian

It is possible that one of the "town" roles that wasn't confirmed by Curtis is actually a second cult too. Would put farlig, TIB, Jamie, in this group along with the town roles from those I listed above.

I left Helios off that top list

BITCH HOWWWWW

Timmah @ 14/4/2017 22:38

I can see that as a plausible town claim. So, realistically, I think we are down to: Im317 Vic Timmah Angi Zersch Christian It is possible that one of the "town" roles that wasn't confirmed by Curtis is actually a second cult too. Would put farlig, TIB, Jamie, in this group along with the town roles from those I listed above.

Christian is uncc'd gift giver. I can see the logic on Z being last mafia because the person he "delayed" last night is dead. I think it's interesting you have no interest in lynching Cherry

Darren Sanders @ 15/4/2017 1:45

Timmah @ 14/4/2017 22:38 I can see that as a plausible town claim. So, realistically, I think we are down to: Im317 Vic Timmah Angi Zersch Christian It is possible that one of the "town" roles that wasn't confirmed by Curtis is actually a second cult too. Would put farlig, TIB, Jamie, in this group along with the town roles from those I listed above. Christian is uncc'd gift giver. I can see the logic on Z being last mafia because the person he "delayed" last night is dead. I think it's interesting you have no interest in lynching Cherry

Great list! I left off multiple people, and it is much longer than the simple list I thought it was when I started typing.

I made it clear yesterday I was going to delay Lamps.

Curtis was openly requesting it.

I also never actually pieced together Christian's role, but that does make sense. That raises a question though, was the extra time from Helios a gift from Christian or his role? I think that's a big distinction.

Also re: "last mafia".

We've only tagged 4. I'd say two are left.

It's 2 am. I am going to sleep.

Helios just got his item the other day, after he had played the Sun Song.

Zersch @ 14/4/2017 22:52

I made it clear yesterday I was going to delay Lamps. Curtis was openly requesting it.

I'm not advocating for your lynch, but at this point people with verifiable actions that aren't having their actions verified could easily be swapping using their action for the opportunity to use the mafia factional kill.

Christian, who did you use your action on?

Well, I am going to sleep in a minute.

DS, I think you could be right about it being pretty simple with Cherry as SK. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around that move that early in the game.