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| Post #121: 29th Mar 2017 12:06 AM | |
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overall is it good? not clicking on the spoilers for obv reasons |
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I would say so. The story is still very good. But... it does feel a bit stripped down. This last episode especially was almost constant cutscene with a few button commands for action sequences inbetween. There was no break in the action whatsoever and the one part where you could move around freely was a race against time with zombies. So eh. |
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Pretty sure it was the same. Gabe got really angry at us for wanting to leave David behind and said he's staying. When we tried to talk him out of it, he turned his back and wouldn't look at us again. Kate and Javi left and two random dudes held us at gunpoint. Javi attacked them and told Kate to run and they brought him into the meeting with David. They revealed Javi tried to escape, David got really mad and said they would discuss it later and... I assume at that point, we had the same thing happen from there with us on our knees and the story just ending abruptly. |
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| Post #122: 29th Mar 2017 11:05 PM | |
Hey that was actually over an hour. Yay??
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episode was dece, I think I appreciated it more for the actual length than the quality (: There were still some effective moments (Clem/AJ scene and revenge for Mariana) but overall I just find myself not caring about the story arc that much? S1 had an amazing story arc obviously, with a clear end goal all along - find Clem's parents and/or find a boat. S2 it was finding Christa in Wellington (at least that was always my personal goal (: ). This season it's...?? Surviving? I mean we found David which felt like progress but that was really just a coincidence. And now the rest of the season is apparently gonna be the War of Richmond, a town which I don't really care all that much about. Ehh. I was pretty disappointed that I wasn't able to just leave with Kate and have something more interesting happen
That said, I do think they did a good job with the David paranoia at least. The whole episode I was constantly waffling back and forth on whether to trust or even like him. They didn't go overly sympathetic with him either, they did just enough to leave it ambiguous. That was handled p well. Even the flashback with AJ I kinda sided with David quite a bit on that, as cruel as it was
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- Demanded justice for Mariana's murder. I felt like I was doing a pretty good job toeing the line (although the one I was appealing to most was Joan which...probably wasn't gonna work out anyway) but I was getting sick of the elephant in the room not getting addressed and wanted to make it LOUD AND CLEAR that they shot an innocent girl
- Injected AJ with the medicine. Honestly a no-brainer. The guy telling me not to was high af anyway, and even if he wasn't, there's no way Clem wouldn't try anything to save AJ
- Bashed Badger's skull in. Like...letting him turn seemed kinda dumb to me, way too dangerous especially if I'm killing him either way. Plus the sweet sweet vengeance for Mariana obv
- Killed Max. I hesitated a bit on this, and might've made the wrong call based on the end (where the guy that gets away starts accusing David instead of Joan) but I didn't trust him not to just turn on us immediately once we got back to Richmond. And I was NOT gonna give that fuck the satisfaction again
- Chose to leave with Kate. This was waaaaay tougher than I thought it'd be at the beginning of the episode. But when Kate asked me early on if I'd promise to get her out of here, I answered with "What about David?" and she said something to the effect of that question is how she never got out of her abusive relationship in the first place. Soooo...I would've felt like shit if I didn't let her make the call, even if I was starting to trust David at that point. I don't get why we had to stop and talk about our feelings right outside the gate tho!!!! |
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| Post #123: 29th Mar 2017 11:13 PM | |
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So what happens when you bring Max back then? Does he betray you or? |
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| Post #124: 29th Mar 2017 11:16 PM | |
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Max didn't betray me surprisingly! He went to the meeting and he confessed everything and said he was tired of that sorta life. Made him a bit more interesting. I had to say a few things to get him to tell the truth tho so I wonder if saying anything differently would've made him lie
lol also I selected "What about David?" too and the reaction was not at all what I expected. I didn't mean to say WE'RE STAYING HERE! like Kate took it, I didn't think that one was gonna be a big deal but then I was like o fuck |
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| Post #125: 29th Mar 2017 11:16 PM | |
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So what happens when you bring Max back then? Does he betray you or? |
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o I hadn't even read this post before making mine | |
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| Post #126: 29th Mar 2017 11:20 PM | |
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Conrad has a death scene in this one too. It's a p. good one. It happens if you decide not to give him a gun which means you did the one thing that kept him alive KC. You should see how long you can drag this man along for
Pretty cool that you can keep a determinant character alive over two episodes since they usually just die right after when they would've died originally. First time? Y/N? |
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| Post #127: 29th Mar 2017 11:24 PM | |
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Max didn't betray me surprisingly! He went to the meeting and he confessed everything and said he was tired of that sorta life. Made him a bit more interesting. I had to say a few things to get him to tell the truth tho so I wonder if saying anything differently would've made him lie
lol also I selected "What about David?" too and the reaction was not at all what I expected. I didn't mean to say WE'RE STAYING HERE! like Kate took it, I didn't think that one was gonna be a big deal but then I was like o fuck |
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hmmm interesting. So I think our endings must've diverged at least a little bit if David didn't get accused in yours, because the last few seconds of mine was David pulling a gun on the council (who believe he was covertly giving orders to Max & friends thanks to the raider escapee's confession) and yelling "HOW'S THIS FOR FAMILY!" or something. Then there's gunshots and it cuts to black
and lol, same here RE: that line. That's happened to me a couple times this season, where I thought an option would be MUCH more innocuous/neutral than it ended up. I meant it more as "Are you okay with leaving David then?" rather than "WOW R U REALLY GONNA TURN YOUR BACK ON YOUR HUSBAND????" |
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Boc
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| Post #128: 29th Mar 2017 11:26 PM | |
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Conrad has a death scene in this one too. It's a p. good one. It happens if you decide not to give him a gun which means you did the one thing that kept him alive KC. You should see how long you can drag this man along for
Pretty cool that you can keep a determinant character alive over two episodes since they usually just die right after when they would've died originally. First time? Y/N? |
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Nick...technically survived a few episodes before randomly showing up dead. But it sounds like Conrad's been more involved than him at least |
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| Post #129: 29th Mar 2017 11:27 PM | |
Nick got fucking ROBBED! | |
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| Post #130: 31st Mar 2017 2:41 AM | |
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Yeah, Nick was basically non-existent in the Howe's episode and then had a completely unavoidable death in the next that was totally unmemorable too. Conrad not only was involved but even was part of a major decision as I allowed him to get vengeance for his dead wife by killing Badger. I thought that was really cool. But yes, Conrad is the first double determinant character in the series. I have a feeling, especially now that Max has the same status, that he's done in the next episode for sure. But it'd be funny if they have another scenario where you can save him or lose him until the end. |
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| Post #131: 20th Apr 2017 7:44 PM | |
Episode 4 coming on the 25th! Apparently they're pushing for a May release for the finale too. So quick
I guess that explains what the hiatus was about. Probably wrote the rest of the season in tandem | |
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| Post #132: 20th Apr 2017 7:46 PM | |
5 days????
o wow. Good | |
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| Post #133: 26th Apr 2017 4:20 AM | |
Whoa.
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- Promised I would help Kate to David. Bit of a silly "decision", especially with it being a flashback. Although I do feel a little shitty as Javi seemingly was not there while David was in the army based off the events of the first episode. I really enjoyed this scene though.
- Refused to kill Lingard. I was very unsure of this one. I don't particularly care for Lingard and would not have minded killing him, however something about this seemed very... off. I felt like there would be a huge consequence and no reward for taking his deal. Felt a little TOO easy to learn AJ's location this way. It's obviously being saved for the finale.
- Told Kate I had feelings for her. I knew going into this episode that this was probably Kate's swan song. That whole conversation in the van confirmed it. Had to have our prolonged romantic moment before it was all over.
- Tried to save Tripp. This was a VERY tough decision. Ava became a great character in this episode and I was really looking forward to working with her to escape. However Tripp has been great to us and for him to be in this situation because that bitch Elenor betrayed him was tragic, I couldn't let him die because of that.... even though he did anyway ;____;
- Took the deal. Already learned from Alvin's sad death in Season 2 that trying to shoot the bad guy when it clearly isn't their time to go is a very bad idea. Had a feeling someone else would die if I attempted to do that, so I just took the deal. I knew it probably wasn't legit or was going to fuck up somehow.
Flashback had Jane and Clem fighting zombies outside of Lowe's while protecting baby AJ after dumping bodies into a pit, including Carver's. Thought this was a bit of a weird one to do and it felt out of place after already knowing Jane's fate, it didn't really reveal anything new or special about the two or AJ at all. Afterwards Ava finds Clem on the run after being kicked out and gives her supplies and a picture AJ drew... I assume this is a universal flashback. Thought that was kind of cool.
Overall, very good episode. Wasn't surprised at all by Kate dying but it was still very sad to see her go that violently and suddenly. And CONRAD! ;_; I was SO MAD when he just went "peace ya'll" in the middle of us figuring out a plan to find the truck because it was so obvious it was a way to write him out for conflicts, but for him to just pop in and save our lives TWICE and sacrifice himself in one of them was fucking awesome and totally unexpected. I do wonder what happens in the end if Conrad isn't there to save you those two times. Screw you all for killing him, Conrad was fucking great in this season and I'm going to be really upset with myself if there was a way to save him from being run over from that truck to make his death triple optional.
GABE! Big episode for him too. I similarly was worried this would be the last episode for him as well, especially with the romance between him and Clem being teased big time and the talk of Clem getting her first period and becoming a woman.
Still conflicted on what's going on with David. I don't think he's going to end up full bad guy at the end anymore but I do think he's going to fuck things up in a horrible way and we're going to have to choose to either put him down or allow him to get Clem killed or something (I originally figured Kate's life would be in balance there but... yeah). I really liked the opening scene between us in the jail cell, when David said I was dead to him I decided to use the "..." option for the rest of the scene. Him continuously looking my way for help when Joan was grilling him was really great. Despite that, I really liked us working together at the end too.
Really looking forward to this finale.
Edit: Apparently Conrad's death IS FUCKING DETERMINANT. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUUUUCK!!!!! I dunno how I was too late to dodge that truck, I never missed a prompt before then.
Edit2: Jesus. Reading through the wiki it's looking like a LOT of deaths were determinant. You CAN kill Joan. I guess Clint lives if you do. And Ava does die if you choose to save her, I figured Tripp died no matter what and the "betrayal" thing was just giving you a false sense of making a tough decision. That's fucking crazy. Not to mention Max could still be running around and I suppose Rufus as well. Really interested how this will all tie up in the finale, although I have a strong feeling that Richmond will be a very small part of it. |
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Curtis
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| Post #134: 26th Apr 2017 7:41 AM | |
Whoa makes me optimistic | |
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| Post #135: 27th Apr 2017 5:50 AM | |
It's easily the best so far. |
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