Careful I think there's actually 4 votes on im317 and one more will hammer. I could be wrong though. Anyone have anything more to add? If not i will be voting

No I'm pretty sure there's only three on him

I'll cast my lynch vote at any time but don't want to push it closer to a hammering since we have extra time within this day cycle and I hate to waste it.

Bryce are you still more wary of Curtis and I than anyone else?

Vic @ 25/1/2016 18:56

Bryce are you still more wary of Curtis and I than anyone else?

I can see the logic behind a im317 lynch and I'm not really against it.

I just haven't questioned you and Curtis all game, and then I realized that and it kind of scared me because WHAT IF you two are just playing super good scum games? It's kind of the logic that the people who you feel most confident in can give you the most reason to be scared. Plus I thought that im317 made some decent points about your Hider claim. Your explanations make sense, but just like im317 can't prove that he's not ninja, you can't prove that you DIDN'T simply refrained from a night kill to set up an otherwise easy claim. We all pretty much know that JC and Angi aren't scum, and everyone else you claimed to hide behind is now dead and proven town. It's a great, clever claim if you're actually scum.

I think I'm questioning you more than I was in previous rounds for sure. I can't quite question Curtis' claim as much at this point.

My potential scum list is:

im317
Vic
Herm

My potential cult list is:

JC
Vern
Angi

Curtis and Ari are the most likely town candidates for me.

Also, I don't think Angi is cult because her ability wouldn't help cult AT ALL and I don't think Brian would waste his other recruitment ability on her.

That doesn't make any sense to me tbh. I don't think Curtis is scum but you're basically ruling him out because he claimed Vanilla and you can't question it. The only difference between the two of us is that I actually have a role and he doesn't, so that makes me more likely to be scum?

Vanilla is a very easy thing for any Mafia member to claim and if you're going to rule him out because of that then I'd think twice about it. I do agree that I don't think he's scum but you're reasoning isn't great

I'm not ruling him out completely, but his posts have been pretty pro-town so far and while vanilla is a super easy thing to claim, he hasn't given me anything I can really question, (not just with his ability, but with his voting track and just general dialogue in this game) Whereas you've been more aggressive, which is how I'd feel you act as scum, (if it's similar to your ghost game). I know the reasoning isn't exactly solid and I can't put it into words super easily, but your claim is a little more questionable atm for me, (and is a little bit based off of my gut as well)

Nah when I'm scum I try and take a backseat, it's dumb to be as aggressive and out there as I've been, especially with so few people left. But this is your first time playing with me so I get it I suppose

Vic @ 25/1/2016 21:28

Nah when I'm scum I try and take a backseat, it's dumb to be as aggressive and out there as I've been, especially with so few people left. But this is your first time playing with me so I get it I suppose

*******it's dumb to be as aggressive and out there as I've been, especially with so few people left IF I WERE SCUM

sorry typo

Vic @ 25/1/2016 21:19

That doesn't make any sense to me tbh. I don't think Curtis is scum but you're basically ruling him out because he claimed Vanilla and you can't question it. The only difference between the two of us is that I actually have a role and he doesn't, so that makes me more likely to be scum? Vanilla is a very easy thing for any Mafia member to claim and if you're going to rule him out because of that then I'd think twice about it. I do agree that I don't think he's scum but you're reasoning isn't great

well Bryce did track Curtis and see him not visit anything, that has to count for something.

Bryce @ 25/1/2016 20:15

Also, I don't think Angi is cult because her ability wouldn't help cult AT ALL and I don't think Brian would waste his other recruitment ability on her.

When you only get limited recruitment actions, you normally try to recruit people sooner rather than later, so if something happens to the recruiter, the cult has a better chance of winning in the end.

This is why I don't think Brian would have waited until N5/N6 to recruit the first time.

im317 (3/5) - Vic, Curtis, JC
Vic (1/5) - im317
Angi (1/5) - Herm
Curtis (0/5) - im317

Deadline Tuesday 2pm est.

I will vote first thing in the morning. My daughter has to go see a surgeon tomorrow morning so I won't be around for chit chat or the deadline.

I won't be around tomorrow before the deadline. I haven't seen anything to warrant changing my vote.