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itsbrianyay - Said Herm was scummy. Didnt lynch. Dont think he has said anything about other suspicions.

yes.. i did.

i have talked about other suspicions (or at least mal, which obv at this point was wrong) and i'll answer buffy's question about them further below.

Buffy @ 15/4/2014 15:39

Yeah, I think this Herm train seems to be growing kinda fast. And I am meta-gaming (again), but Herm acted exactly this same way as Gabriel in ATTWSIV. I thought he was scummy all game but he wasn't. I just think he thinks out loud. And, even though Vernon doesn't want to give additional info, looking back at Brian's posts from Day 2: Quote i'm gonna go with my gut and ##lynch herm for now, though it might change because i keep doubting myself. on top of the contradictory statements and other oddities, he keeps calling the mafia "vampire scum" when it's clear that the vampires are cult, not the mafia (unless there's 2 factions of vampires in buffy lore..? i have no idea). to me it seems intentionally ignorant. I just wonder why he would say it's clear mafia would not be vampires but then says he has no idea about Buffy lore. Seems contradictory and almost like he knows something about the mafia.

i don't understand what the issue is here. we were TOLD that the vampires were 3rd party when dylan died. it just didn't make sense for both the scum and that third party faction (which at the time i thought was cult) to be "vampires." i added the bit about possibly being wrong because i haven't seen buffy and don't know if there are twilight-esque factions of vampires with different goals.

what exactly is suspicious about that?

Buffy @ 15/4/2014 14:28

Who do you think is scum, Brian?

the most suspicious people to me are the ones who post without really saying anything. at this point, im looking at..

boc (though admittedly i confuse him with vic so i need to reread)
drr (her multi-paragraph post today was just.. nothing.)
g0 (though i don't think they've posted today, i can't think of any opinion they've had other than "don't lynch me, bro!")
buffy (i guess this might be a little OMGUSy but your post about me doesn't make sense and you've said some pretty strange stuff i didn't find myself agreeing with)
herm (i've spoken about herm A LOT and i have no idea why ari is saying i didn't vote to lynch him)

ugh, my phone just ate the post I was typing because I went to go look something up.

Anyway I was saying, I think in context of that post if I remember, Brian was commenting on Herm calling mafia vampires when Dylan's flip made it seem like cult is the "vampire" faction. That's still such a weird thing to latch onto and use as a reason to not just suspect but lynch someone. Especially since I can't remember much else from Brian in the way of theories.

Oh there's stuff from brian

i don't have time today to look back through people's posts so that list is mostly made from gut feelings.

Ari @ 15/4/2014 14:39

Town: Ari - obviously ;) Likely town: DR Perry Meh: Curtis - was lynched by HC. Vernon - strikes me as town. Patrick - strikes me as town. Greenday - not sure about his claim but ill put him here. Ahoda - strikes me as town. Not sure: Boc Shawn Buffy Possible lynches: Angi - lynched Greenday. lynched Curtis. lynched Malion. Bandwagony votes. Cash Money - lynched Herm because the Mal train gained a lot of steam quickly. Hasnt said much else. g0 - dont think he/she has said anything of note regarding his/her suspicions. Herm - Been the target of a lot of suspicion. Malion was lynched in his stead. Mafia ploooy? A lot of people seem to suspect him though. That rarely happens to mafia. itsbrianyay - Said Herm was scummy. Didnt lynch. Dont think he has said anything about other suspicions. Shadow - scummy post I mentioned earlier. Has accused me and Herm. Then lynched Mal. Tricks - lynched Herm. Said Curtis and Boc where scummy. Wikey - Said Curtis was scummy. Pointed at Boc, Greenday, Vernon, Vic. Lynched Greenday. Hasnt said much else. Not sure if Herm is the best target. He seems to have so many people against him, that doesnt happen to mafia a lot. Some of the people here above have talked a lot but said very little....

How are drr and Perry "likely town" when their claims haven't exactly cleared them any more than mine have?

I did go through your posts Brian and didnt see a vote for Herm, but I could be wrong! If you can find it please post it

Greendayger @ 15/4/2014 20:16

Ari @ 15/4/2014 14:39 Town: Ari - obviously ;) Likely town: DR Perry Meh: Curtis - was lynched by HC. Vernon - strikes me as town. Patrick - strikes me as town. Greenday - not sure about his claim but ill put him here. Ahoda - strikes me as town. Not sure: Boc Shawn Buffy Possible lynches: Angi - lynched Greenday. lynched Curtis. lynched Malion. Bandwagony votes. Cash Money - lynched Herm because the Mal train gained a lot of steam quickly. Hasnt said much else. g0 - dont think he/she has said anything of note regarding his/her suspicions. Herm - Been the target of a lot of suspicion. Malion was lynched in his stead. Mafia ploooy? A lot of people seem to suspect him though. That rarely happens to mafia. itsbrianyay - Said Herm was scummy. Didnt lynch. Dont think he has said anything about other suspicions. Shadow - scummy post I mentioned earlier. Has accused me and Herm. Then lynched Mal. Tricks - lynched Herm. Said Curtis and Boc where scummy. Wikey - Said Curtis was scummy. Pointed at Boc, Greenday, Vernon, Vic. Lynched Greenday. Hasnt said much else. Not sure if Herm is the best target. He seems to have so many people against him, that doesnt happen to mafia a lot. Some of the people here above have talked a lot but said very little.... How are drr and Perry "likely town" when their claims haven't exactly cleared them any more than mine have?

Would be a HUUUGE gamble if they where mafia to both claim something like that. If either flips mafia the other one will likely be lynched.

Your claim however seems a bit out there. Not saying you are lying but as I see it you cant really prove it can you? (unlike DR surviving 2 attacks!)

itsbrianyay @ 15/4/2014 15:00

Quote itsbrianyay - Said Herm was scummy. Didnt lynch. Dont think he has said anything about other suspicions. yes.. i did. i have talked about other suspicions (or at least mal, which obv at this point was wrong) and i'll answer buffy's question about them further below. Buffy @ 15/4/2014 15:39 Yeah, I think this Herm train seems to be growing kinda fast. And I am meta-gaming (again), but Herm acted exactly this same way as Gabriel in ATTWSIV. I thought he was scummy all game but he wasn't. I just think he thinks out loud. And, even though Vernon doesn't want to give additional info, looking back at Brian's posts from Day 2: Quote i'm gonna go with my gut and ##lynch herm for now, though it might change because i keep doubting myself. on top of the contradictory statements and other oddities, he keeps calling the mafia "vampire scum" when it's clear that the vampires are cult, not the mafia (unless there's 2 factions of vampires in buffy lore..? i have no idea). to me it seems intentionally ignorant. I just wonder why he would say it's clear mafia would not be vampires but then says he has no idea about Buffy lore. Seems contradictory and almost like he knows something about the mafia. i don't understand what the issue is here. we were TOLD that the vampires were 3rd party when dylan died. it just didn't make sense for both the scum and that third party faction (which at the time i thought was cult) to be "vampires." i added the bit about possibly being wrong because i haven't seen buffy and don't know if there are twilight-esque factions of vampires with different goals. what exactly is suspicious about that? Buffy @ 15/4/2014 14:28 Who do you think is scum, Brian? the most suspicious people to me are the ones who post without really saying anything. at this point, im looking at.. boc (though admittedly i confuse him with vic so i need to reread) drr (her multi-paragraph post today was just.. nothing.) g0 (though i don't think they've posted today, i can't think of any opinion they've had other than "don't lynch me, bro!") buffy (i guess this might be a little OMGUSy but your post about me doesn't make sense and you've said some pretty strange stuff i didn't find myself agreeing with) herm (i've spoken about herm A LOT and i have no idea why ari is saying i didn't vote to lynch him)

You lynched Herm yesterday but haven't today. I think that's what Ari meant? I just noticed when going through your posts you don't seem to focus much except you did suspect Mal when he was drunk. I did, too although not because he was drunk, so I didn't think it was odd. Then, you voted Herm later and it's almost like you didn't wanna be on Mal's train since maybe you knew he was town.

As far as the mafia/cult/vampire thing, okay. The post just seemed off and I read it as you kind of seeming knowledgeable but saying you weren't. I don't see why there wouldn't be vampires in the mafia but that's my opinion, I guess since I know there are many layers to the show. But not everyone is a fan. :P

(I keep trying to post but then then getting a message that the site is down but I used the new url I know yay)


Anyway, I'm going to

##lynch itsbrianyay

here is my vote for herm.

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i'm gonna go with my gut and ##lynch herm for now, though it might change because i keep doubting myself. on top of the contradictory statements and other oddities, he keeps calling the mafia "vampire scum" when it's clear that the vampires are cult, not the mafia (unless there's 2 factions of vampires in buffy lore..? i have no idea). to me it seems intentionally ignorant.

if i'm seriously getting judged for not voting for him yet today then i don't even know what to say.


buffy: i vote for herm before there was even a single vote on mal. how could i have known he would be getting lynched?

it really seems like you're going out of your way to paint me in a bad light.

I don't think Brian is scum. He comes off very genuine to me. I admit some bias as he's a friend of mine, but I really don't think he's scum. He's not by any means the only person who's thrown suspicion at Herm without voting - I don't understand why people keep saying the Herm wagon is growing quickly when I'm pretty sure only four or five people have voted for him? I may be wrong.

Ari, I'm not entirely sure why you suspect me? You just stated things I've done.

I suspect everyone here :)

Buffy @ 15/4/2014 13:39

Yeah, I think this Herm train seems to be growing kinda fast.

Day 2 Lynch

Mal (7/12) - Boc, Shadow, Buffy, Rose, Herm, Curtis, Hot Cocoa, Angi

Ari @ 15/4/2014 14:20

Would be a HUUUGE gamble if they where mafia to both claim something like that. If either flips mafia the other one will likely be lynched. Your claim however seems a bit out there. Not saying you are lying but as I see it you cant really prove it can you? (unlike DR surviving 2 attacks!)

Rose surviving doesn't mean anything for her at all. Perry, yes, he's probably town, especially given that we have a dead mafia doctor on our hands, but all his claim did was defuse the bullshit reasoning for her lynch early yesterday. But his alignment is in no way indicative of hers.

The Mal train only grew so fast because a majority of people were not comfortable with the lynch trains on me, Greenday and Curtis. Once Rose was cleared from being lynched by Perry it all got a bit confusing with too many trains going on at once.

Ari @ 15/4/2014 15:20

Greendayger @ 15/4/2014 20:16 Ari @ 15/4/2014 14:39 Town: Ari - obviously ;) Likely town: DR Perry Meh: Curtis - was lynched by HC. Vernon - strikes me as town. Patrick - strikes me as town. Greenday - not sure about his claim but ill put him here. Ahoda - strikes me as town. Not sure: Boc Shawn Buffy Possible lynches: Angi - lynched Greenday. lynched Curtis. lynched Malion. Bandwagony votes. Cash Money - lynched Herm because the Mal train gained a lot of steam quickly. Hasnt said much else. g0 - dont think he/she has said anything of note regarding his/her suspicions. Herm - Been the target of a lot of suspicion. Malion was lynched in his stead. Mafia ploooy? A lot of people seem to suspect him though. That rarely happens to mafia. itsbrianyay - Said Herm was scummy. Didnt lynch. Dont think he has said anything about other suspicions. Shadow - scummy post I mentioned earlier. Has accused me and Herm. Then lynched Mal. Tricks - lynched Herm. Said Curtis and Boc where scummy. Wikey - Said Curtis was scummy. Pointed at Boc, Greenday, Vernon, Vic. Lynched Greenday. Hasnt said much else. Not sure if Herm is the best target. He seems to have so many people against him, that doesnt happen to mafia a lot. Some of the people here above have talked a lot but said very little.... How are drr and Perry "likely town" when their claims haven't exactly cleared them any more than mine have? Would be a HUUUGE gamble if they where mafia to both claim something like that. If either flips mafia the other one will likely be lynched. Your claim however seems a bit out there. Not saying you are lying but as I see it you cant really prove it can you? (unlike DR surviving 2 attacks!)

Yeah it's really tricky for me because my role is really useful for the town but the drawback is I'm not actually told whether my role was successful or not. So I can't exactly give you guys the leads we need.