ffs wikey get the fuck out of my doublepost

FUCK YOU FORESNAFFLE

YOU ARE NOW MY ENEMY

Who was from across teh pond that was comparing all the accusations to something that happened to Europe?

we're spanish bbq:spin: @ 1/11/2017 13:28

Igor @ 1/11/2017 13:22 Often it doesn't come out until much later that accusations are false. There should be backlash, its just an issue that not a lot of people pay attention to. In these cases its often guilty until proven innocent and thats not right. People need to reserve judgement until theres evidence, instead of pitchforking. for individuals, fine. but here's a question -- how surprised are you to learn how widespread this behavior is? would you be surprised to know that it's not particular to hollywood, but common to nearly every industry and it's just easy to start with hollywood because of the juxtaposition of a given actor's characters and who they are in real life? cliff huxtable wouldn't drug anybody!

Not at all surprised.
Hollywood is a scummy industry
I already gave my thoughts on Spacey.
I agree that there is sexism everywhere
From the office job to silicon valley.

This is a good thread ...

Wikey @ 1/11/2017 14:28

I don't there is a single member here I dislike. Sucks to see you guys fighting tbh!

I'm bored in the waiting room, waiting for my friend to get out of surgery so I can drive her home. This is entertaining me very much.

Igor @ 1/11/2017 13:26

vladykins @ 1/11/2017 13:22 Wikey @ 1/11/2017 13:17 How is Igor sexist tho? I think they are pointing out the "Men's lives ruined by false accusations" while ignoring the thousands of women whose lives are ruined by being raped but don't say anything because when they do, they are accused of "lying", or "being a slut", or "wanting it at the time and now regretting it", "Or just trying to gold dig", and a thousand other things. Because men being accused are the *real* victims, right? </sarcasm> Not sure if I need to close a <pretension> tag but I'm sure Igor will let me know. Nice job of putting words in my mouth. I encourge victims of sexual assault to come forward. I just won't pitchfork someone until I see solid evidence. I'm not victim blaming or slut shaming. Quit being a SJW

Yes, and people like Tarantino didn't believe their own GIRLFRIEND when they talked about Weinstein. Because, you know, he was such a stand up guy who hooked Tarantino up with a lot of cash to make movies. So he gave him the benefit of the doubt, just like you. Where's the *hard proof*? And when the hard proof finally comes, how many people's lives were fucked up or ruined? Or do you even believe all the Weinstein stories- after all, where's the hard proof there? Maybe they are just trashing Harvey's reputation, right? We should all reserve judgement and let the creep get away with it again and again and again and again.

Wikey @ 1/11/2017 14:30

FUCK YOU FORESNAFFLE YOU ARE NOW MY ENEMY

Wikey back the fuck off FSNAFF you shit.

vladykins @ 1/11/2017 13:33

Igor @ 1/11/2017 13:26 vladykins @ 1/11/2017 13:22 Wikey @ 1/11/2017 13:17 How is Igor sexist tho? I think they are pointing out the "Men's lives ruined by false accusations" while ignoring the thousands of women whose lives are ruined by being raped but don't say anything because when they do, they are accused of "lying", or "being a slut", or "wanting it at the time and now regretting it", "Or just trying to gold dig", and a thousand other things. Because men being accused are the *real* victims, right? </sarcasm> Not sure if I need to close a <pretension> tag but I'm sure Igor will let me know. Nice job of putting words in my mouth. I encourge victims of sexual assault to come forward. I just won't pitchfork someone until I see solid evidence. I'm not victim blaming or slut shaming. Quit being a SJW Yes, and people like Tarantino didn't believe their own GIRLFRIEND when they talked about Weinstein. Because, you know, he was such a stand up guy who hooked Tarantino up with a lot of cash to make movies. So he gave him the benefit of the doubt, just like you. Where's the *hard proof*? And when the hard proof finally comes, how many people's lives were fucked up or ruined? Or do you even believe all the Weinstein stories- after all, where's the hard proof there? Maybe they are just trashing Harvey's reputation, right? We should all reserve judgement and let the creep get away with it again and again and again and again.

I had no idea who this guy was, so again stop putting words in my mouth.
By proof i mean police reports or multiple accounts of it happening to others.
His gf should have wemt to the police, plain and simple.
I'm not trying to shame victims.

You think we'll see a Roman Polanski situation with Weinstein?

Wikey @ 1/11/2017 13:30

FUCK YOU FORESNAFFLE YOU ARE NOW MY ENEMY

Kevin makes some great points

##lynch Tommy Wiseau

I am just curious now at what level do we have to wait before Igor is comfortable- do we have to wait for a conviction, knowing full well that most of these things aren't easily prosecutable? or that "evidence" is difficult to procure in a case like this? After all, if you come forward, they tend to drag your sexual history out into the open. And, with folks who have money/power, they can do a lot to make the life of an accuser *really* difficult.

Here's a food for thought article for you, before you chalk it up to more SJW crap: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/10/harvey-weinstein-and-the-economics-of-consent/543618/

Igor @ 1/11/2017 13:31

we're spanish bbq:spin: @ 1/11/2017 13:28 Igor @ 1/11/2017 13:22 Often it doesn't come out until much later that accusations are false. There should be backlash, its just an issue that not a lot of people pay attention to. In these cases its often guilty until proven innocent and thats not right. People need to reserve judgement until theres evidence, instead of pitchforking. for individuals, fine. but here's a question -- how surprised are you to learn how widespread this behavior is? would you be surprised to know that it's not particular to hollywood, but common to nearly every industry and it's just easy to start with hollywood because of the juxtaposition of a given actor's characters and who they are in real life? cliff huxtable wouldn't drug anybody! Not at all surprised. Hollywood is a scummy industry I already gave my thoughts on Spacey. I agree that there is sexism everywhere From the office job to silicon valley.

so i just said that hollywood isn't particularly scummy, but rather that such behavior exists everywhere from the office job to silicon valley.

pick a lane.

attn igor: you should pivot to how joe biden loves to touch little girls

hth

I've decided he probably is sexist. Lots of women are afraid to report because the burden of proof is so high and are afraid of being revictimized and character bashed in a trial. Going to the police by saying someone grabbed their breast or kissed is unlikely to go well.