vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:35

ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:07 vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:55 Based on what you claimed, mafia get an additional free night either way. If you are lying and mafia, exposing our vig is not a good idea. If you are what you say, mafia get two nights either way, so i see no advantage in waiting until night. Mafia gets a free additional night either way, yes, but if we lynch scum today it'll at least somewhat offset the extra day they get. Lynching me today 100% results in a mislynch and scum getting an extra night. The only way lynching me could be advantageous is that it allows the vig to kill someone else, but there's no guarantee he hits scum. Also I don't see how the vig killing me exposes him?? Mafia tracker flipped. You dismissing the possibility of mafia watcher because you feel it is OP seems scummy to me. We've lost even night vig and if mafia has watcher, they'll know odd night vig *and* if you are truly princess, they'll have another night to freely take him out without town having the ability to counter it. Vig is a danger to mafia so they would love an obvious opportunity to spot him or her.

The other important thing, is that it's not only Mafia Watcher that can screw up the plan. If either Mafia Doc or Mafia Busser exists, they can also easily negate the plan (especially since the town watcher has already flipped, so they aren't really at risk in doing so).

IDK I just hate the Princess role in general. It feels like there's no correct way to play it, especially when kills and lynches both set off the additional night phase.

Also, just thought I would post these here.

Day 1

Spin (8/15) - DS, Merc, Josh, Lamps, Lamps, Mittens, Badger, Lamps, Stephen, Badger, Josh, Herm DS (5/15) - Timmah, Primate, Ahoda, Mittens, Badger, Josh, im317, Spin, Helios Merc (2/15) - Angi, Boc Curtis (1/15) - Sock Josh (1/15) - Nofo Patrick (1/15) - Ahoda Stephen (0/15) - Primate, Stephen Ahoda (0/15) - Nofo Farlig (0/15) - Ahoda Lamps (0/15) - Spin

Day 2

Mittens (10/14) - Merc, Josh, Ahoda, Helios, Angi, Sock, Boc, im317, Lamps, Kiwi, Hern Vlady (1/14) - Curtis Patrick (1/14) - Angi Merc (1/14) - Mittens Curtis (0/14) - Sock

Day 3

Ahoda (13/13) - Farlig, Nofo, im317, TIB, Helios, Maddie, Angi, ZacharyB, Hern, Miko, Merc, Josh, Ahoda Merc (2/13) - Angi, Primate, Vlady, TIB Miko (1/13) - Sock Patrick (0/13) - Ahoda Dr (0/13) - ZacharyB Maddie (0/13) - Merc Farlig (0/13) - Maddie Helios (0/13) - Hern

Day 4

Maddie (6/11) - Kiwi, Angi, Merc, Zach, Josh, Miko, Helios ZacharyB (4/11) - Merc, Angi, Badger, im317, Vlady, Merc, Stephen, Josh, Primate, Helios, Stephen Angi (1/11) - ZacharyB Merc (1/11) - Primate Stephen (1/11) - Timmah, Zach Primate (0/11) - Badger, Merc Badger (0/11) - Angi

The purple threw me off for a minute for Curtis- until I realized that he is technically unknown. I have just assumed he is town, considering the janitor flip, but I suppose he could have been SK or third party/Chaos team or even cult.

Sock has been off every majority so far and was on Miko Day 3 which looks bad to me.

I don't remember if I included Miko on my "town" list earlier but he should be there for obvious reasons.

vladykins @ 25/5/2017 15:07

The purple threw me off for a minute for Curtis- until I realized that he is technically unknown. I have just assumed he is town, considering the janitor flip, but I suppose he could have been SK or third party/Chaos team or even cult.

I originally was going to make his color grey. And then I realized that the text on this forum is by default already grey lol.

If people strongly disagree with my rationale for Zach, I think the other person I'd be looking at the lynching right now is Merc.

Frankly, I agree with your rationale, but I agreed with it yesterday too, which is why I left my vote there, despite the last minute Maddie run up.

Given I'll be leaving in an hour or so, unless other info comes through, my vote will sit there again.

But given what I've seen, I could be convinced to vote Stephen, Sock, Merc, or brian.

Primate @ 25/5/2017 16:54

Has Herm's name always been Hern instead of Herm?

I signed up wrong so I just changed it, it's Herm.

Nofo @ 25/5/2017 20:01

Anyone lynching me is fake. Fuck you

## unlynch

Nofo, help out if you're town lol.

So four people have yet to post:

Helios, Boc, Brian and Kiwi.

Sounds like our boy Helios is probably silenced.

##unlynch
I'm willing to follow Badger this round

vladykins @ 25/5/2017 13:50

BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 14:45 ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:36 Quote With the amount of mental gymnastics Merc is doing to try and get this reporter role to be distrusted (and yesterday he tried to directly lynch them), I'm thinking he may have been on that Chaos team with Spin or something. Maybe they are a group of lynchers whose targets were all different? And that is how they create chaos? Is it possible that the lynchers only know what roles they have to lynch instead of players? If so this theory makes a lot of sense It's definitely possible. In Spin's flip, it says he has an action but that it's redacted (which I assume means we learn about it at the end of the game?). This information was probably withheld from us for balance purposes, which makes me think they could have contained information pertaining to certain roles existing in the game. Hosts probably didn't want to repeat the scenario where a player gets outed by role information that pops up as hidden text in a flip. Perhaps each of them has a certain role that they lynch and their night action involves searching for that person? If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a combination of mafia and town targets. Damn, this is the type of crazy theory I normally come up with. Color me impressed. :)

I actually thought you wrote that.

Hern @ 25/5/2017 16:43

Nofo @ 25/5/2017 20:01 Anyone lynching me is fake. Fuck you ## unlynch Nofo, help out if you're town lol.

I am town, maybe you're not since you're pointing fingers. Think about that.

Miko is pretty high on my scum list, too. He claimed info on D2 or 3 not a peep since, and is still alive.