##lynch Timmah

thisisbad @ 17/4/2017 23:05

Yeah. I don't see how we don't lynch timmah today. But if i had a gun i might shoot Vic tonight.

Cherry definitely needs to shoot Vic tonight. Vic's claim is the most convenient one in the game, cannot be tested, and has not provided us with any information that was not already stated. He tried all game to get me lynched, which is what the rest of his mafia team did as well. He advocated against the plan to shoot im317 at night (I still believe that would have given us the most information based on what we knew at the time yesterday - tests Vic, im317, and Cherry all in 2 steps instead of the 2 we took - which instead tested me instead of Vic or Cherry. Maybe it works out just fine in the end, but information gathering is what we were looking for). He only lynched im317 because he was the other lynch candidate. His argument that im317's role would be better to keep as mafia because he could've killed all the BP claims is bunk because there is absolutely no reason the mafia wants to kill any of the BP roles, as those are great to hide behind during day phases.

I think Angi is SK now that she's admitted that she stopped Z's action on her. If not that, she may well be third party survivor/SK hybrid or something where she had a BP vest and then unlocked other actions along the way, or something.

Helios was cleared by Primate? The only flaw to this was that Vic could have made that result up that Primate visited Helios. However Primate did give us a strong hint at that in his faux cop thing nofo did.

Nofo has been pretty obviously doc since he tried to get me lynched on D2. I still think it's hilarious that the mafia either missed that or thought he was such a non-threat that they didn't care.

Christian has been proven to give out items, and has at least mostly given them to proven town, right? He was also cleared by Curtis

DS was cleared by Curtis and we know he took mittens' role, who was mod-stated to be town.

TIB has his role proven to redirect all actions directed at his target to himself. I can't see that as a scum role because it likely is a sacrificial role - it's basically bodyguard.

Farlig - role stops all actions on himself except for kills? That is an interesting claim. Did anyone even indicate that this was tested and proven?

spin is mod-confirmed town.

Cherry seems to pretty obviously be vig unless that third kill attempt can be explained otherwise.

Jamie is still a bit of a question mark as well. His role claim - preventing cult recruiting - makes sense in this setting. Honestly, if he is not town, he started as second Cult and is making that claim because he knows that he was unlikely to get CC'd. I'd have to go look at where he claimed in the grand scheme of things, though. He was the first to bring up someone else (Maddie?) being second cult too, which could be seen as suspicious.

##lynch Angi

Sorry boo! Process of elimination and all. Vic is my next choice, followed by farlig/Jamie.

If Angi was SK, why admit that her action wasn't stopped? We didn't know that.

No comment on the Vic/Curtis/Z thing?

thisisbad @ 17/4/2017 22:48

Vic @ 17/4/2017 15:54 Yes. Curtis visited Christian, DS, Vic, Herm and Zersch Hmmm isn't the Zersch part of this one interesting?

Curtis claimed on D5 - so he had 4 actions, plus perhaps the one he took the night he died.

N1 - Christian
N2 - Z (he was mirrored either back to himself or elsewhere)
N3 - Herm
N4 - DS (he was a real cop at this point)
N5 - ?? (He was killed this night)

So, yeah, Vic fucked that claim up pretty bad as Curtis never actually visited Zersch.

thisisbad @ 17/4/2017 23:24

If Angi was SK, why admit that her action wasn't stopped? We didn't know that. No comment on the Vic/Curtis/Z thing?

Patience young Padawan

Vic @ 17/4/2017 17:01

jamie ♂ @ 17/4/2017 18:00 Curtis visiting Zersch, was that the night of Z's mirror shield or the night he died? Would it show him visiting Zersch if he was redirected? pretty sure curtis visited me the night he died, he had announced that he visited the other four names while he was still alive

Except, Zersch used a mirror shield that night and Curtis never actually visited him, he was redirected.

And, as I suspected. After he was called out on messing up the claim of who Curtis visited, he states that Curtis said who he visited, then ignored it thereafter even though someone did point out that Zersch had a mirror shield that night so Curtis wouldn't have visited Z.

##unlynch
##lynch Vic

Lynch all liars, Amirite?

Man, TIB wouldn't stop talking to himself until I showed up, then he got all shy. I'll be nice, I promise!

I'll play along...

##Lynch Vic

I literally got a result of the five people that Curtis visited and shared them all with you

Cherry please kill me tonight, I don't want to do this everyday anymore. I don't know what I'm supposed to do lol, I said my role was pretty shit for the get-go

The people saying Curtis did not visit zersch please answer me this:

If he did not visit Zersch how was he reflected?

He didn't visit him but was somehow reflected by an effect that reflected people who visited him? That makes no sense.

He visited him, he just was reflected and told so. I believe Curtis said he still got a town result just that he wasn't sure if the result was his own due to the reflection or someone elses

If Timmah's lynched today, Cherry has a couple of options to look at depending on what he flips.

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I think Angi is SK now that she's admitted that she stopped Z's action on her. If not that, she may well be third party survivor/SK hybrid or something where she had a BP vest and then unlocked other actions along the way, or something.

All of this is 100% wrong
I can get on board with a Vic lynch

I also didn't have to admit that I unlocked a new action. .....which was one time use only. Yes it was publicly announced they visited me and yes they were given letters saying what happened but I didn't have to post knowledge of it. But I'm town so why wouldn't I.

Darren Sanders @ 17/4/2017 22:47

The people saying Curtis did not visit zersch please answer me this: If he did not visit Zersch how was he reflected?

He didn't get a result from z. So he targeted him, but never actually got there, which I consider a visit. He ended up somewhere else. You don't think we'd get that result?

I'm still lynching timmah but I think it's something to consider