Helios Garabandia @ 12/1/2017 22:23

The Ice Climbers were 3rd Party...but do we know what kind? Like, what was their wincon? My gut (and previous experiences) guess they were Lovers, which could mean that Sock died because Rose was already dead. Biggest constraint to that is the flavor that says Sock was killed via his own pickaxe, but still just a theory to throw out there.

I'm pretty sure if they were lovers, there would have been some indication of it in either of their role flavors.

spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:24

Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:20 spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:19 Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:17 Nick killed 317, Nofo killed Greenday. Assuming Sock was a Mafia kill, that seems like an odd one with so many outed roles. Interesting that you are giving Nick a pass for being scum... Not giving him a pass, was pointing out that of the dead today, Sock is the least fitting to be a Mafia kill, imo. Which would mean it's much more likely that Nick or Nofo was the scum killer, right?

Yes, that was more or less what I was thinking.

spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:24

Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:20 spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:19 Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:17 Nick killed 317, Nofo killed Greenday. Assuming Sock was a Mafia kill, that seems like an odd one with so many outed roles. Interesting that you are giving Nick a pass for being scum... Not giving him a pass, was pointing out that of the dead today, Sock is the least fitting to be a Mafia kill, imo. Which would mean it's much more likely that Nick or Nofo was the scum killer, right?

More than one person could've attacked a player to cause their death. Remember this isn't ordinary mafia.

nickrick @ 12/1/2017 23:25

I also had to wind up my bat for a night...so my assumption on im317 goes back to round 3.

That would make more sense than thinking he was scum last night

merc how dare u take my barrel

##lynch mittens

the scummiest of scum reads on him atm

Zersch @ 12/1/2017 23:25

Helios Garabandia @ 12/1/2017 23:23 The Ice Climbers were 3rd Party...but do we know what kind? Like, what was their wincon? My gut (and previous experiences) guess they were Lovers, which could mean that Sock died because Rose was already dead. Biggest constraint to that is the flavor that says Sock was killed via his own pickaxe, but still just a theory to throw out there. Don't Lovers typically die at the same time?

Usually, they die the next night phase, regardless of killed at night or Lynched.

spindoctor02 @ 13/1/2017 0:24

Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:20 spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:19 Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:17 Nick killed 317, Nofo killed Greenday. Assuming Sock was a Mafia kill, that seems like an odd one with so many outed roles. Interesting that you are giving Nick a pass for being scum... Not giving him a pass, was pointing out that of the dead today, Sock is the least fitting to be a Mafia kill, imo. Which would mean it's much more likely that Nick or Nofo was the scum killer, right?

You are confused about how this game works.

spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:25

Helios Garabandia @ 12/1/2017 22:23 The Ice Climbers were 3rd Party...but do we know what kind? Like, what was their wincon? My gut (and previous experiences) guess they were Lovers, which could mean that Sock died because Rose was already dead. Biggest constraint to that is the flavor that says Sock was killed via his own pickaxe, but still just a theory to throw out there. I'm pretty sure if they were lovers, there would have been some indication of it in either of their role flavors.

This is why I asked if we knew what their wincon was.

Timmah @ 12/1/2017 23:30

spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:24 Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:20 spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:19 Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:17 Nick killed 317, Nofo killed Greenday. Assuming Sock was a Mafia kill, that seems like an odd one with so many outed roles. Interesting that you are giving Nick a pass for being scum... Not giving him a pass, was pointing out that of the dead today, Sock is the least fitting to be a Mafia kill, imo. Which would mean it's much more likely that Nick or Nofo was the scum killer, right? More than one person could've attacked a player to cause their death. Remember this isn't ordinary mafia.

True, I could see scum piling up on 317.

Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:39

True, I could see scum piling up on 317.

Definitely possible. But would scum pile on him without trying to kill (i.e. KO) him? Nick directly claims to have KO'd im317.

spindoctor02 @ 12/1/2017 23:43

Zersch @ 12/1/2017 22:39 True, I could see scum piling up on 317. Definitely possible. But would scum pile on him without trying to kill (i.e. KO) him? Nick directly claims to have KO'd im317.

Well, if they had piled on and used a KO in addition to Nick's direct KO, we wouldn't know about it. You said you were invulnerable during your FS, right? I guess it's just as likely they piled on to try to steal from and KO you.

## Claim Super Scope

Just as a placeholder for now, in case I get busy tomorrow afternoon.

We shouldn't be assuming that mafia killed one of the three who died last night really, it's not just one straight up mafia kill like a regular game. Mafia could've attacked quite a few of us who didn't get to 100% and get KO'd. All of last nights' deaths could've been caused be town for all we know