Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 22:05

Curtis @ 12/4/2016 3:09 This is pretty much how I read the end of the day yesterday: Lamps and Wikey are clearly on the same team and made it very evident yesterday. That team is not aligned with Listscum which we pretty much know, so they'd wanna lynch one of the two townies on it for sure and keep the person they believe is scum alive Lamps believed I was town much of the time but suddenly went for me. Wikey went for Christian to start the day then me later. Wikey was obviously gonna jump on my train as it was tying at the end of the day. The two worked together to get me lynched I think they know Boc is mafia. Drr said her team knew Lamps was mafia and we ignored it. Once Wikey saw that lynching me wasn't working and that Lamps was leading, he immediately made a huge switch and pushed for Boc. It was like he said FUCK IT and decided to make a last ditch effort to give us actual scum to save Lamps and to look good the next day. This post says it all really: Wikey @ 10/4/2016 19:57 Please lynch Boc everybody. It's him, I'm sure of it now. I know I said it was 100% Curtis a few pages ago but I've changed my mind, for the last time. Do it. If he is town I'll lynch myself tomorrow. Right at the end of the day to try to get votes off of Lamps and onto Boc. He was very suddenly SURE of it based on nothing. His last line about how he'll lynch himself if Boc is town is pretty key. He wanted to get a ListTownie lynched but ran out of options so he offered up Boc and wouldn't have had to eat those words the next day I'm 100% sure Wikey is Environmental Mafia and almost positive Boc and Ari are Raiders. If we wanna focus on Raiders then I think we should go for Boc and Ari despite them being less of a sure thing than Wikey would be This could be correct, but why not just lynch you instead since you had more votes?

Because of that last line:

"Do it. If he is town I'll lynch myself tomorrow."

This seems like he knows Boc is scum and wanted to prove it to help himself out. This is really the ONLY explanation I can think of for not wanting to hardcore push everyone to lynch me over Lamps tbh. He went out of his way to defend Lamps and look scummy for a Boc lynch and there had to be a reason

Christian @ 12/4/2016 3:54

So Herm. If you believe it likely that Ari and Curtis are not on the same team: 1) Who do you feel better about being the last Mafia member on the list? 2) How would you explain Ari surviving an attack last night? Which do you feel more strongly about? 1) Curtis being Mafia 2) Ari being Mafia

1) Curtis
2) Only way is Doctor, but we have someone handing out vests so he's not bulletproof.

2) Ari being Mafia

It's back and forth for me, not sure what to do right now.

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 22:14

Christian @ 12/4/2016 3:54 So Herm. If you believe it likely that Ari and Curtis are not on the same team: 1) Who do you feel better about being the last Mafia member on the list? 2) How would you explain Ari surviving an attack last night? Which do you feel more strongly about? 1) Curtis being Mafia 2) Ari being Mafia 1) Curtis 2) Only way is Doctor, but we have someone handing out vests so he's not bulletproof. 2) Ari being Mafia It's back and forth for me, not sure what to do right now.

Town Doctor died.

So shouldn't you be more suspicious of Boc or me, if you're more sure of Ari being Mafia and Ari/Curtis not being on the same team?

I would feel a lot better if Boc and Ari came out today and posted something.

I think with the other stuff we are going round in circles with the theories

Christian @ 11/4/2016 21:11

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 21:09 I'm 100% sure Wikey is Environmental Mafia and almost positive Boc and Ari are Raiders. If we wanna focus on Raiders then I think we should go for Boc and Ari despite them being less of a sure thing than Wikey would be I think this plan makes a lot of sense.

This oddly makes sense to me

##unlynch

##lynch Ari

ah nice, Curtis is turning the Raider thing back around on me. It's clearly him. Again, I won't be surprised if he escapes it again. He already did yesterday and even served up an Environmental mafioso in the process, which will help him (because even if he's mafia at least he did the town a solid). But there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it's him

I think one of the most glaring strikes against him yesterday was that he didn't bring up the likelihood of himself being blocked iirc. Not once, even after I brought it up. This is because he was clearly aiming to survive another day and figure it out then. Now that he has, he goes with the "well OBVIOUSLY I was gonna be blocked I should've seen it coming!!!" There's no way Town Curtis wouldn't have brought up that possibility yesterday

##lynch Curtis

I'm a mason vanilla, fyi

Boc @ 11/4/2016 22:23

ah nice, Curtis is turning the Raider thing back around on me. It's clearly him. Again, I won't be surprised if he escapes it again. He already did yesterday and even served up an Environmental mafioso in the process, which will help him (because even if he's mafia at least he did the town a solid). But there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it's him I think one of the most glaring strikes against him yesterday was that he didn't bring up the likelihood of himself being blocked iirc. Not once, even after I brought it up. This is because he was clearly aiming to survive another day and figure it out then. Now that he has, he goes with the "well OBVIOUSLY I was gonna be blocked I should've seen it coming!!!" There's no way Town Curtis wouldn't have brought up that possibility yesterday ##lynch Curtis

And now, do you have role other than Mason?

Boc @ 11/4/2016 22:23

I'm a mason vanilla, fyi

okay thanks.

and while you're here, Boc:

if you weren't voting for Curtis, who would you be voting for (other than me)?

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:13

Because of that last line: "Do it. If he is town I'll lynch myself tomorrow." This seems like he knows Boc is scum and wanted to prove it to help himself out. This is really the ONLY explanation I can think of for not wanting to hardcore push everyone to lynch me over Lamps tbh. He went out of his way to defend Lamps and look scummy for a Boc lynch and there had to be a reason

the reason is he wanted to save Lamps. Why the FUCK would he have not brought it up earlier otherwise!!

He probably saw Lamps getting all the momentum and thought the only way to save him was to swing it back to me. I'm not totally sure why, but I don't think I was on at the time, and clearly you were so he probably thought that was the only chance for you to switch your vote. And possibly whoever else was on at the time

Boc @ 11/4/2016 22:23

ah nice, Curtis is turning the Raider thing back around on me. It's clearly him. Again, I won't be surprised if he escapes it again. He already did yesterday and even served up an Environmental mafioso in the process, which will help him (because even if he's mafia at least he did the town a solid). But there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that it's him I think one of the most glaring strikes against him yesterday was that he didn't bring up the likelihood of himself being blocked iirc. Not once, even after I brought it up. This is because he was clearly aiming to survive another day and figure it out then. Now that he has, he goes with the "well OBVIOUSLY I was gonna be blocked I should've seen it coming!!!" There's no way Town Curtis wouldn't have brought up that possibility yesterday ##lynch Curtis

Of COURSE I thought of it

If I had said "I will confirm myself tonight, but I might get blocked tbh", you would've said, "ah nice, Curtis already setting up the block excuse for the next day !!"

DON'T DENY IT

Had I discussed me being blocked as an option more, the chance of them blocking me would've grown and the chance of me looking fishier for it happening would've grown

Christian @ 11/4/2016 22:26

and while you're here, Boc: if you weren't voting for Curtis, who would you be voting for (other than me)?

Wikey for sure. I'd vote for Wikey, Ari, and maybe even Vlad over you. If Vlad didn't come off as town-like as he has I'd think he's the Raider Godfather with how hard Curtis has been pushing for an Ari lynch. Still could be him though

Oh. I forgot Town Doctor died.

## lynch Ari

Maybe Curtis is actually town then?

Boc @ 11/4/2016 22:26

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 22:13 Because of that last line: "Do it. If he is town I'll lynch myself tomorrow." This seems like he knows Boc is scum and wanted to prove it to help himself out. This is really the ONLY explanation I can think of for not wanting to hardcore push everyone to lynch me over Lamps tbh. He went out of his way to defend Lamps and look scummy for a Boc lynch and there had to be a reason the reason is he wanted to save Lamps. Why the FUCK would he have not brought it up earlier otherwise!! He probably saw Lamps getting all the momentum and thought the only way to save him was to swing it back to me. I'm not totally sure why, but I don't think I was on at the time, and clearly you were so he probably thought that was the only chance for you to switch your vote. And possibly whoever else was on at the time

lol how does this make any sense. I was liked tied with Lamps with 10 minutes to go. The only person voting you was Wikey. He could've lynched me to push it within one of a tie. If he wanted to save Lamps that bad, all he had to do was vote for me but instead he chose to push it onto you because he banked on it helping him in the longer run