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Post #1096: 27th Jan 2016 1:19 PM 
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I personally can't wait for all the bashing to start on Manning over the coming weeks regarding the HGH use.

Cam Newton will be teabagging Denver's defense.


NFL will make sure Peyton goes out on top. Watch. Refs will have a huge influence in the Super Bowl.


lol yes. It's all for the Cinderella story. It's crazy


Probably, he'll more than likely have a terrible game, Denvers D will have to lead them to a win, and Manning will get the MVP with the shittiest stats ever by an MVP.
 
   
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Post #1097: 27th Jan 2016 1:23 PM 
Curtis @ 27/1/2016 14:10
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There's absolutely no debate. The only people who deny it are people who hate him or the Pats


Hey I love Tom. He went to UofM and he's a awesome QB. But he's not the best ever. Peyton has better stats and Montana was better in the post season.


http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/is-tom-brady-now-the-greatest-quarterback-in-nfl-history.html/?a=viewall

Scroll down to postseason and eat your words bucko



Montana never lost a Super Bowl. And you can't compare the game stats from the 80s to now. Different era and the NFL is geared towards a big passing attack. You're a Patriots fan with blinders on. Not going to try to change your point of view. It's not possible. I'm a Lions fan and Barry was the best HB ever. Dont attempt to say Smith or Water is better. Brady is awesome, but more top 3-5 then #1.
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Great job Ahoda

   
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Post #1098: 27th Jan 2016 1:24 PM 
Ben @ 27/1/2016 14:19
Curtis @ 27/1/2016 18:11
ahoda @ 27/1/2016 13:09
Ben @ 27/1/2016 14:07
I personally can't wait for all the bashing to start on Manning over the coming weeks regarding the HGH use.

Cam Newton will be teabagging Denver's defense.


NFL will make sure Peyton goes out on top. Watch. Refs will have a huge influence in the Super Bowl.


lol yes. It's all for the Cinderella story. It's crazy


Probably, he'll more than likely have a terrible game, Denvers D will have to lead them to a win, and Manning will get the MVP with the shittiest stats ever by an MVP.



But his forehead will be glorious and red!
Curtis @ 25/7/2017 9:44
Great job Ahoda

   
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Post #1099: 27th Jan 2016 1:51 PM 
ahoda @ 27/1/2016 18:23
Curtis @ 27/1/2016 14:10
ahoda @ 27/1/2016 13:08
Curtis @ 27/1/2016 14:03
There's absolutely no debate. The only people who deny it are people who hate him or the Pats


Hey I love Tom. He went to UofM and he's a awesome QB. But he's not the best ever. Peyton has better stats and Montana was better in the post season.


http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/is-tom-brady-now-the-greatest-quarterback-in-nfl-history.html/?a=viewall

Scroll down to postseason and eat your words bucko



Montana never lost a Super Bowl. And you can't compare the game stats from the 80s to now. Different era and the NFL is geared towards a big passing attack. You're a Patriots fan with blinders on. Not going to try to change your point of view. It's not possible. I'm a Lions fan and Barry was the best HB ever. Dont attempt to say Smith or Water is better. Brady is awesome, but more top 3-5 then #1.


So then what about Bradshaw? He never lost a super bowl either and you can't compare stats from the 70's to the 80's? And the same was evident then in regards to the evolution of the passing game with Fouts, Marino, Montana, coming into the mix with the West Coast and spread offenses.

That being said I personally think there's a great argument that Brady IS the greatest of all time myself. But's that's factoring, in Regular Season, Post Season and Super Bowls.

Now if you want to look at who is the best regular season, post season or super bowl quarterbacks that changes things, but still puts Brady in the top 5 of each.
 
   
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Post #1100: 27th Jan 2016 8:05 PM 
Curtis @ 27/1/2016 12:03
There's absolutely no debate. The only people who deny it are people who hate him or the Pats

lol this is such a homerish thing to say

He's top 3-5 but there's easily a debate. He might not even be the best QB of his era. I'd put him about even with Peyton. I don't give a shit about postseason wins/losses, those are team stats for the most part. Marino and Tarkenton never won SBs but they're still two of the best QBs of all-time. The Patriots' defense was a huge factor in Brady's first 3 Super Bowl wins

As far as all-time goes, I think Unitas, Montana, and maybe even Marino would go ahead of Brady for me. If you just look at the stats from their eras and how dominant they were, those 3 were more clearly ahead of the curve, especially Unitas. Whereas Brady's playing in the most passer-friendly era ever and has Brees/Rodgers/Manning/etc all putting up comparable stats
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Post #1101: 27th Jan 2016 8:09 PM 
hey boc what the HELL do you know man???
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Post #1102: 27th Jan 2016 8:10 PM 
I was also mostly kidding and don't even really WATCH football! :lol:
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Post #1103: 27th Jan 2016 8:11 PM 
he is the best though
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Post #1104: 27th Jan 2016 8:28 PM 
Uhh, Nick Foles had one of the best regular seasons of all time. 27 TDs and 1 pick.

Him and McNabb are top 5 maybe top 7
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Post #1105: 27th Jan 2016 8:29 PM 
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Post #1106: 27th Jan 2016 8:29 PM 
This debate is over
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Post #1108: 27th Jan 2016 8:39 PM 
Brady is a system quarterback, his defense won him his 2nd and 3rd Super Bowl anyways, he gets way too much credit.

 
   
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Post #1110: 27th Jan 2016 8:54 PM 
Manning may not even be the best QB ever on the two teams he's played for. I'd take Unitas for the Colts and Elway from the Broncos personally.
 
   
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