Having said that i welcome a lynch over a bomb cause then i get revenge for people not believing me

wikeyb9m3bek @ 12/8/2019 10:49

Lamps @ 12/8/2019 0:25 We should not forget Wikey btw. He looks townish to me, but there is no proof of it and his voting record isn’t the best. My voting record isn't the best? What are you basing that on? I've voted Josh practically every day and we don't know his alignment. That aside, I was an early suspect of Buffy, and I think my reads have been decent, albeit a bit erratic at times. I don't mind you not ruling me out, it's good to err on the side of caution, but there's nothing wrong with my voting record.

Well you don't know for sure, just like I don't know for sure, whether your voting record isn't the best, or whether nothing is wrong with it. As it stands though, you did not vote Brian or Buffy, so there are other, more suspicious people, with better voting records.

I'm interested to see Josh flip though, yeahh.

Thisisbad @ 12/8/2019 10:56

I don't know what to tell you about actually being busy this time. I had a 16 hour day and a 14 hour day. But if you want to go by my meta of being quiet, i also never claim when scum either. I came out with my claim because i wasn't going to have much time. Id also like to again point out i called brian and buffy scum day 2. And i don't bus scummates. But you can pick which part you want to believe.

Some good points imo.

- Credit to IM for figuring the SK out yesterday. He called SK with ninja abilities before anyone else iirc

- Mittens, privately ask yourself this: Is your role more valuable than tracker? If you think so, keep in mind that Mafia may have found out your role somehow and the gun is sabotaged. It's possible Brian used his one shot role cop Night 1 on you, or they figured your role out by some other means.

- I still think Farlig was a risky target for Mafia last night, unless they had a way to block his protect or redirect it in a way that they knew he'd be exposed. Leads to my next point...

- If Nav is hinting at the role I think he is, he could be the scum variation. And if he is what I think he is, him openly saying he knew he'd survive last night looks scummy.

It would have been better for a town player not to disclose that, to keep scum guessing going into the next night. But perhaps his priority is to lend his claim legitimacy when he finally makes it? I want him to claim today honestly, don't think it's helping his case to stay silent anymore. It's also possible I'm way off base with what I think his role is.

- Cody/Nav: Nav's theory, If I understand it correctly is this: Cody went out for the kill for scum Night 2 and was nexus'd to Lamps. At the beginning of the following day he claimed Bystander, and in Nav's mind this was to cover his tracks. Nav is seemingly forgetting that Buffy was also seen visiting Lamps, and it is generally accepted that she was the mafia's chosen killer that night.

Which is why I said that Cody could only be a third party killer. And after Cavin's flip, we can safely say that isn't the case. So Cody almost certainly didn't try to kill anyone Night 2, so why does Nav seem so sure that he does? Nav, you're a better player than this. What's going on?

In fairness, Buffy was probably going out for the kills because the rest of her team have power roles. Is it possible that Cody has a scum power role which visits? Sure. Is there any reason to believe that is the case atm? I say not.

@Lamps

I did in fact try to vote for Brian towards the end of that day but missed the deadline by seconds. Not that it mattered at that point.

And I believe I explained on the day why I wasn't going to vote for Buffy: I wasn't going to be around near the deadline and I didn't want my vote stuck on her if any info absolving her was to come to light.

I want Nav to respond to my post about his obsession over Cody btw. It's making him start to look scummy to me.

Mittens, I know you're probably going to use the gun regardless of the potential dangers today, but you might want to consider claiming before you do and give any info you have to us while you can. If you think there is anything worth divulging of course.

My top three to shoot, in order:

1 - Josh
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2 - Herm
3 - Nav

So yeah, Josh basically. Herm is looking better after yesterday, but I'm still getting vibes.

Nav is bothering me, but not enough to want him dead right now. I'd like to hear him explain his theory on Cody some more, and I want him to claim. No more fucking around Nav.

@Wikey, I didn't say that I thought Cody was a killing role on the night of the Nexus. At least not after Calvin flipped. I see no reason to discount a visiting Mafia role though.

The bomb came from a town source, it's not sabotaged (unless there is hidden text involved). Since we have not seen another day kill ability, I think it is safe to use. Had there been another day kill item then I would have been more skeptical as then usually one is real and the other is bad.

Prince Navneeta @ 12/8/2019 5:28

@Wikey, I didn't say that I thought Cody was a killing role on the night of the Nexus. At least not after Calvin flipped. I see no reason to discount a visiting Mafia role though.

Ok, but let's assume that is the case...Lamps didn't report anything bad happening to him, so if Cody has a mafia visiting role, it's safe to say it's benign.

So why would he have panicked and claimed at the start of Day 3?

If Mittens does go for Josh or Nav, I deffo suggest letting them claim first.

Lamps @ 12/8/2019 5:29

The bomb came from a town source, it's not sabotaged (unless there is hidden text involved). Since we have not seen another day kill ability, I think it is safe to use. Had there been another day kill item then I would have been more skeptical as then usually one is real and the other is bad.

How do we know it came from town again? I must have missed that

Oh, probably because of the poisoning yesterday?

I'm Town x-shot bus driver.

On N1 I swapped Rodney and Cultis. For the lols more than any reads I had and it ended up saving Rodney (so you're welcome Rod!)

N2 my action failed because of the Nexus. Can't bus drive Lamps with himself.

N3 I swapped Penner and Herm. Which is why I didn't buy any "Penner was redirected" theories that Calvin was spouting

N4: I swapped myself with Cody. I had kept it vague yesterday about what I would do. If you look closely I alluded to saving myself on N3 and also egging Mafia on to come after me. Unfortunately it didn't work so Shrug

I've tried to use the role protectively, swapping a town read of mine with a scum read.

There you go Wiley.

Thank you Nav. I thought as much!

wikeyb9m3bek @ 12/8/2019 11:34

Lamps @ 12/8/2019 5:29 The bomb came from a town source, it's not sabotaged (unless there is hidden text involved). Since we have not seen another day kill ability, I think it is safe to use. Had there been another day kill item then I would have been more skeptical as then usually one is real and the other is bad. How do we know it came from town again? I must have missed that

Because I'm town..