I like the cowboys, but am not delusional enough to think Emmitt Smith was top 3 among cowboy HB's, let alone all time, all NFL. I don't think Aikman was a top 50 QB all time, let alone top 5. Those guys won a lot of Superbowls and were it not for the niners would have won a lot more, but that doesn't make them Johnny U and Jim B.

Primate @ 8/2/2019 15:06

I like the cowboys, but am not delusional enough to think Emmitt Smith was top 3 among cowboy HB's, let alone all time, all NFL. I don't think Aikman was a top 50 QB all time, let alone top 5. Those guys won a lot of Superbowls and were it not for the niners would have won a lot more, but that doesn't make them Johnny U and Jim B.

Vikings fans say you're welcome.

Any day now Herschel Walker is going to get his place in the ring of honor. Any day now.

Brady does have a lot of the X-factor things, *(poise, leadership, focus, etc...) that make up for a lot of the natural arm talent that he doesn't have, so talent alone can't be looked at without including his mental makeup.

Not sure there would have been no difference with Jimmy Grapes. Brady's experience and mental side probably won them a few games that maybe Jimmy wouldn't have.

Spin @ 8/2/2019 15:10

Primate @ 8/2/2019 15:06 I like the cowboys, but am not delusional enough to think Emmitt Smith was top 3 among cowboy HB's, let alone all time, all NFL. I don't think Aikman was a top 50 QB all time, let alone top 5. Those guys won a lot of Superbowls and were it not for the niners would have won a lot more, but that doesn't make them Johnny U and Jim B. Vikings fans say you're welcome. Any day now Herschel Walker is going to get his place in the ring of honor. Any day now.

Mike Lynn for President!

Spin's sounding like Max Kellerman

Spin with the worst take of 2019

Primate @ 8/2/2019 15:11

Brady does have a lot of the X-factor things, *(poise, leadership, focus, etc...) that make up for a lot of the natural arm talent that he doesn't have, so talent alone can't be looked at without including his mental makeup. Not sure there would have been no difference with Jimmy Grapes. Brady's experience and mental side probably won them a few games that maybe Jimmy wouldn't have.

I never said there would be no difference. I said they'd still be successful if Brady wasn't there. Most NFL QBs can throw the 5 yard pattern to Edelman 20 times a game too. lol

Ahoda @ 8/2/2019 16:55

Spin with the worst take of 2019

Tom Brady is a very good QB.

Is he the best QB ever? No. I'd say Peyton or maybe even Brees, just from this generation are better quarterbacks. Is Tom the most successful and accomplished quarterback of all time, of course he is. He deserves his place in the list of all-time greats for the longevity, the stats, and the team successes.

But if I'm making a Madden All-Time roster, he's not even in my 3-deep at QB.

tbf they went like 11-5 with Matt Cassel right? Which definitely adds plenty of FUEL TO THE FIRE of the Brady=System QB argument

I agree that TALENT-WISE, Brady's not even close to Rodgers/Marino/etc, BUT he does make up for it in his ability to execute on Belichick's system and his poise under pressure

I do give Belichick way, way more credit than Brady for their dynasty though

Brady’s got all those intangibles that can’t be weighed

He’s the clutchest QB ever. No better person to close out a game

THE GOAAAAATTTTTTTT

Did someone say clutch?

Who is that

Or should I have posted this?

Curtis @ 8/2/2019 18:35

Brady’s got all those intangibles that can’t be weighed He’s the clutchest QB ever. No better person to close out a game THE GOAAAAATTTTTTTT

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-most-clutch-postseason-quarterback-of-all-time-is-eli-manning/



stats don't lie

I’m so glad I don’t root for the sad sap nobodies that you all root for