Here's a theory. Nav is Mafia JOAT and used a one-time bus-driving ability N1 on Helios/Spider to try to make one of them look bad. He used a one-time protection last night and maybe he had a one-time death match to use but just never used it because he was using other stuff instead.

Or he's SK but the claim makes more sense for mafia if he's scum.

If navsputin really is a neutered sk, we have no reason to lynch him.

Primate @ 30/11/2018 20:37

If navsputin really is a neutered sk, we have no reason to lynch him.

Apparently you can’t castrate an SK though

Ahoda @ 30/11/2018 20:02

##lynch Christian

no, not today.

At least not yet.

Gonna spend some fam time I'll bb later.

JJ @ 30/11/2018 17:37

Here's a theory. Nav is Mafia JOAT and used a one-time bus-driving ability N1 on Helios/Spider to try to make one of them look bad. He used a one-time protection last night and maybe he had a one-time death match to use but just never used it because he was using other stuff instead. Or he's SK but the claim makes more sense for mafia if he's scum.

Why on earth would I NOT use the one time Judge action if this were the case.

Christian @ 30/11/2018 19:35

JJ @ 30/11/2018 19:51 Yeah, also why did he say he survived an attack? Maybe he was saved by mafia doc but why even admit that? that's a curious point as well. I don't know if we can really believe anything he said now that he flipped Mafia. BUT if he did actually survive an attack, the attacker (if they're still with us) would know, and it'd mean we're looking for a reason he survived. I thought for sure he'd flip SK.

I thought he would be SK if not scum. Does that mean that the real SK went after him before? Or he could have just made that up to try to disguise himself as town, which he did poorly.

Sebclops @ 30/11/2018 17:39

JJ @ 30/11/2018 17:37 Here's a theory. Nav is Mafia JOAT and used a one-time bus-driving ability N1 on Helios/Spider to try to make one of them look bad. He used a one-time protection last night and maybe he had a one-time death match to use but just never used it because he was using other stuff instead. Or he's SK but the claim makes more sense for mafia if he's scum. Why on earth would I NOT use the one time Judge action if this were the case.

Remember it's a DAY action

If Christian and Nav are both scum they're not the same faction - IMO

Christian SK
Nav Mafia

or vv

itsbrianyay @ 30/11/2018 19:38

Primate @ 30/11/2018 20:37 If navsputin really is a neutered sk, we have no reason to lynch him. Apparently you can’t castrate an SK though

Oh yeah I forgot. Then maybe he no killed thinking I was gonna motion detect him.

Sebclops @ 30/11/2018 20:39

Sebclops @ 30/11/2018 17:39 JJ @ 30/11/2018 17:37 Here's a theory. Nav is Mafia JOAT and used a one-time bus-driving ability N1 on Helios/Spider to try to make one of them look bad. He used a one-time protection last night and maybe he had a one-time death match to use but just never used it because he was using other stuff instead. Or he's SK but the claim makes more sense for mafia if he's scum. Why on earth would I NOT use the one time Judge action if this were the case. Remember it's a DAY action

You said you could also choose to use it the night before. Anyway, it wouldn't be the first time a JOAT had a combo of day/night actions.

itsbrianyay @ 30/11/2018 20:15

What happens if an SK gets vanilla’d

I would assume nothing at all. I think Merc said killing roles would keep their killing role, and I can't imagine they'd just convert to town, since I couldn't see Mafia converting to Town and knowing who the rest of the Mafia were.

Christian @ 30/11/2018 20:41

itsbrianyay @ 30/11/2018 20:15 What happens if an SK gets vanilla’d I would assume nothing at all. I think Merc said killing roles would keep their killing role, and I can't imagine they'd just convert to town, since I couldn't see Mafia converting to Town and knowing who the rest of the Mafia were.

He also said they wouldn't change factions.

JJ @ 30/11/2018 17:40

Sebclops @ 30/11/2018 20:39 Sebclops @ 30/11/2018 17:39 JJ @ 30/11/2018 17:37 Here's a theory. Nav is Mafia JOAT and used a one-time bus-driving ability N1 on Helios/Spider to try to make one of them look bad. He used a one-time protection last night and maybe he had a one-time death match to use but just never used it because he was using other stuff instead. Or he's SK but the claim makes more sense for mafia if he's scum. Why on earth would I NOT use the one time Judge action if this were the case. Remember it's a DAY action You said you could also choose to use it the night before. Anyway, it wouldn't be the first time a JOAT had a combo of day/night actions.

My point is, your theory falls apart there.

If I'm Mafia JOAT wanting to hide behind a one time action, I woudn't NOT use it. In fact I'd use it first chance I got. And I had 5 days before this.

Sebclops @ 30/11/2018 19:37

Spider @ 30/11/2018 17:35 Huh, just when I was starting to believe Nav was town yesterday. Then again, maybe you were bussed like what happened to me night one without me knowing. On the fence right now, but I'll be watching your posts carefully Nav. Like Jay Jay pointed out, it's hard to believe that I was bussed because of the cure situation. Even though that (or Primate lying) are the only 2 possibilities.

True. That is another possibility I'm considering. But Primate was correct in his assessment of me. I haven't left my home of my own doing cus I can't.