I see it from an overall societal misery perspective. People grieve from the dead, but it lessens over time, so more murders isn't a huge misery increase for most of society. But more rapes/molestations? That shit gets carried forever. Yes, people continue after, but it scars them- even those who come through and have "wonderful" lives. And those who don't are fucked up hard.

vladykins @ 30/6/2018 10:55

I see it from an overall societal misery perspective. People grieve from the dead, but it lessens over time, so more murders isn't a huge misery increase for most of society. But more rapes/molestations? That shit gets carried forever. Yes, people continue after, but it scars them- even those who come through and have "wonderful" lives. And those who don't are fucked up hard.

Someone should do something about all those rape/molestation victims then, for the greater good.

vladykins @ 29/6/2018 18:21

Igor @ 29/6/2018 16:05 ur really obsessed with touching men, vlady You realize half the gusy in this forum are gay, right? That it is not much of an insult except maybe in Indiana amongst lame bros who think calling someone a "fag" is the height of cleverness? Considering your insults run only to "gay", dick sucker", "child diddler", "old man", and "retard", you don't even have interesting insults. This is the sad part: You, like your music, are boring to an "old man".

sorry you are right, i mean to say ur obsessed with touching boys
i'm a big supporter of the gays

vladykins @ 30/6/2018 11:55

I see it from an overall societal misery perspective. People grieve from the dead, but it lessens over time, so more murders isn't a huge misery increase for most of society. But more rapes/molestations? That shit gets carried forever. Yes, people continue after, but it scars them- even those who come through and have "wonderful" lives. And those who don't are fucked up hard.

vladykins @ 30/6/2018 11:55

I see it from an overall societal misery perspective. People grieve from the dead, but it lessens over time, so more murders isn't a huge misery increase for most of society. But more rapes/molestations? That shit gets carried forever. Yes, people continue after, but it scars them- even those who come through and have "wonderful" lives. And those who don't are fucked up hard.

Would you rather a loved one be raped or murdered?

Would you rather your child be molested or murdered?

Would YOU rather be raped or murdered?

That’s how I see it. Both are horrible. But one is game over.

Just think. You could eliminate ALL murder. No more killing. Poof.

Igor @ 30/6/2018 16:53

vladykins @ 29/6/2018 18:21 Igor @ 29/6/2018 16:05 ur really obsessed with touching men, vlady You realize half the gusy in this forum are gay, right? That it is not much of an insult except maybe in Indiana amongst lame bros who think calling someone a "fag" is the height of cleverness? Considering your insults run only to "gay", dick sucker", "child diddler", "old man", and "retard", you don't even have interesting insults. This is the sad part: You, like your music, are boring to an "old man". sorry you are right, i mean to say ur obsessed with touching boys i'm a big supporter of the gays

No you aren't and, once, again, *this* is why you are boring, even as a troll. Your "touching boys" comment isn't even original here; chris pulled it first on me, though strangely he shut up and disappeared when, in return, I asked him if he was still beating his girlfriend. This is why you are the bargain basement chris: even in this you had to steal from him. You have no new or original insults, which makes you boring as shit. Hell, you could at least mine some of the old insult masters to bring something old and make it new and refreshing again. (I did this recently with a Johnny Carson line I used on Curtis). Rather than copying chris, who wasn't all that great or interesting to begin with, go do a little studying and come up with some fun trolling. Otherwise, you are boring as shit. To an old man. And that is a sad statement to make.

Havo @ 30/6/2018 20:45

vladykins @ 30/6/2018 11:55 I see it from an overall societal misery perspective. People grieve from the dead, but it lessens over time, so more murders isn't a huge misery increase for most of society. But more rapes/molestations? That shit gets carried forever. Yes, people continue after, but it scars them- even those who come through and have "wonderful" lives. And those who don't are fucked up hard. Would you rather a loved one be raped or murdered? Would you rather your child be molested or murdered? Would YOU rather be raped or murdered? That’s how I see it. Both are horrible. But one is game over. Just think. You could eliminate ALL murder. No more killing. Poof.

Again, this becomes a personal issue- how it selfishly effects *me*. I've known people who have been molested who then suffered for it, and passed some of that suffering on to other people. If a loved one gets raped, then they will continue to suffer, where if they are murdered, their suffering is over. Done for. Is that really what we want to make it: me selfishly keeping a loved one around for my sake? Me saying "Hey, you got violently raped, but at least you aren't dead? Suck it up, buttercup!" That to me seems a pretty selfish perspective to throw in there.

And again- this only eliminates murder. Killing still happens. People still get hit by drunk drivers or lead to overdose by druggie friends. War still happens, etc. etc. So again- societally, are you decreasing overall by eliminating some specific deaths but adding on more people walking around having been raped/molested? Have you witnessed the psychological fuck up this does, even in the people who are "strong"?