Christian

If Curtis is Purple Mafia, since most would agree that the Zook Mafia member left is Purple, and if Ari is Purple Godfather based on surviving attack, then unless Ari was trying to distance himself by lynching Curtis yesterday, Curtis maybe isn't the Purple Mafia we're looking for.

Only one of Curtis/Ari is likely Purple Mafia.

If they were scumbuddies Ari could've lynched Boc or you instead. Curtis had to pull out all stops to survive yesterday.

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 21:33

Christian If Curtis is Purple Mafia, since most would agree that the Zook Mafia member left is Purple, and if Ari is Purple Godfather based on surviving attack, then unless Ari was trying to distance himself by lynching Curtis yesterday, Curtis maybe isn't the Purple Mafia we're looking for. Only one of Curtis/Ari is likely Purple Mafia. If they were scumbuddies Ari could've lynched Boc or you instead. Curtis had to pull out all stops to survive yesterday.

Yeah, that's what I said. :P Or tried to say, anyway.

Ari (2/8) - Patrick, Curtis
Wikey (1/8) - Curtis, Sab
Curtis (1/8) - Chris

Christian @ 11/4/2016 21:24

Curtis @ 11/4/2016 21:20 ##Unlynch ##Lynch Ari Ari if we wanna take out a likely Raider Wikey if we wanna take out a definite Environmentalist Boc if we wanna end the list and take out a likely Raider There may be a way to accomplish a couple things today.

So we have what seems like the sure thing in Wikey, and then two most likely's in Ari and Boc. I will stay with what I feel is the sure thing unless some more information comes out. Jay? Did you really give a vest to Vlady? Ari? Hello?

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 21:33

Christian If Curtis is Purple Mafia, since most would agree that the Zook Mafia member left is Purple, and if Ari is Purple Godfather based on surviving attack, then unless Ari was trying to distance himself by lynching Curtis yesterday, Curtis maybe isn't the Purple Mafia we're looking for. Only one of Curtis/Ari is likely Purple Mafia. If they were scumbuddies Ari could've lynched Boc or you instead. Curtis had to pull out all stops to survive yesterday.

ya, WASN'T FUN!! Look at the shits who were on my train. I've been saying it for ages but it always seems like a combination of both mafia teams lynching me

Lamps and Wikey: environmental mafia
Ari: likely raider mafia
Boc: likely raider mafia and last list scum
Vern: leaning scum on him and he could be on either

Maybe next time Boc's here, he can tell us what his actual role is too. If I find him in the ATTWS character tournament threads, I'm dragging his ass back here...

he wasn't there. :P

Wouldn't Boc be a Mason?

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 20:47

Wouldn't Boc be a Mason?

I think more people are leaning towards him being a mason traitor

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 21:47

Wouldn't Boc be a Mason?

im317 was a Town Mason Vig
Zook was a Town Mason Backup Vig
Boc is a ____ Mason ____

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 21:47

Wouldn't Boc be a Mason?

Zook and im317 were Masons too. They had roles.

Hermsworth @ 11/4/2016 21:33

Christian If Curtis is Purple Mafia, since most would agree that the Zook Mafia member left is Purple, and if Ari is Purple Godfather based on surviving attack, then unless Ari was trying to distance himself by lynching Curtis yesterday, Curtis maybe isn't the Purple Mafia we're looking for. Only one of Curtis/Ari is likely Purple Mafia. If they were scumbuddies Ari could've lynched Boc or you instead. Curtis had to pull out all stops to survive yesterday.

So Herm. If you believe it likely that Ari and Curtis are not on the same team:
1) Who do you feel better about being the last Mafia member on the list?
2) How would you explain Ari surviving an attack last night?

Which do you feel more strongly about?
1) Curtis being Mafia
2) Ari being Mafia

I've been operating under the idea that with 2 mafias, boc can't be mafia traitor. I suppose one of the mafias could've started at less strength though but with boc who had access to the vigs? Just don't see why he'd not have left zook alive to control the kill. Someone mentioned that zook wanted to kill rose, so maybe that's what happened. Seems hard to believe, but this game hasn't exactly been usual.

IF that's true, then that puts Ari and boc on Rose's mafia team. Since I'm not sold on the boc theory yet, I leaning Ari.

Curtis @ 12/4/2016 3:09

This is pretty much how I read the end of the day yesterday: Lamps and Wikey are clearly on the same team and made it very evident yesterday. That team is not aligned with Listscum which we pretty much know, so they'd wanna lynch one of the two townies on it for sure and keep the person they believe is scum alive Lamps believed I was town much of the time but suddenly went for me. Wikey went for Christian to start the day then me later. Wikey was obviously gonna jump on my train as it was tying at the end of the day. The two worked together to get me lynched I think they know Boc is mafia. Drr said her team knew Lamps was mafia and we ignored it. Once Wikey saw that lynching me wasn't working and that Lamps was leading, he immediately made a huge switch and pushed for Boc. It was like he said FUCK IT and decided to make a last ditch effort to give us actual scum to save Lamps and to look good the next day. This post says it all really: Wikey @ 10/4/2016 19:57 Please lynch Boc everybody. It's him, I'm sure of it now. I know I said it was 100% Curtis a few pages ago but I've changed my mind, for the last time. Do it. If he is town I'll lynch myself tomorrow. Right at the end of the day to try to get votes off of Lamps and onto Boc. He was very suddenly SURE of it based on nothing. His last line about how he'll lynch himself if Boc is town is pretty key. He wanted to get a ListTownie lynched but ran out of options so he offered up Boc and wouldn't have had to eat those words the next day I'm 100% sure Wikey is Environmental Mafia and almost positive Boc and Ari are Raiders. If we wanna focus on Raiders then I think we should go for Boc and Ari despite them being less of a sure thing than Wikey would be

This could be correct, but why not just lynch you instead since you had more votes?

Curtis: TOWN!
Christian: 95% sure Town
Vlady: Leaning town attempting to help
Timmah: Leaning town attempting to help
Chris: Leaning town for a specific reason

Jay: Cult confirmed

Herm: Leaned town almost all game until his shady stances yesterday. Red mafia if scum
Wikey: 100% red mafia
Boc: Almost surely purple mafia
Ari: Very likely purple mafia
Vern: Leaning either mafia

No reads/math indicates three are scum:
Pat
Sabataged
TIB
Zero: inactive