Tricks @ 17/4/2014 13:23

Angi @ 17/4/2014 11:58 Tricks @ 17/4/2014 10:31 I'm still thoroughly convinced Herm is a dormant SK and that lynching him before a slayer pops up dead is a bad idea. Why would it be a bad idea? Just asking, I honestly don't understand it. Because a serial killer who can't kill yet is harmless. Mafia is not.

Ok, I see what you're saying.



##unlynch



But trying to find out a definite mafia member is obviously, not working out for us lol

I really wish I had more time to look into things right now but I don't. I'm leaving pretty soon and likely won't be back until maybe an hour or two before the deadline

So I guess I better claim now since my train seems like the only real one right now, and who knows how much that'll grow while I'm gone.

I'm the Hider. I can hide behind a person every night and I only can die if that person dies, or I die if that person is scum. I wish I didn't have to reveal this so soon because now I doubt scum will waste a kill attempt on me, but oh well. I've been hiding behind the same person every night. I'm not gonna reveal that person just yet because they'll be an obvious target for scum, but I can if you guys want me to. Regardless, I'm not gonna be hiding behind that person anymore, because I don't wanna take the chance of scum getting a double kill if they figure it out

And quickly, my current thoughts before I go:

likely town
Ahoda - he really seems like more of a town who hasn't been paying enough attention. I really doubt scum would make all the silly mistakes that he has
Buffy - the Brian lynch makes her look really good
Perry - just because of his claim
Tricks - I'd be shocked if he wasn't town

maybe town
Ari - UNFORTUNATELY I think he's town because of the Brian lynch. Only reason I don't fully trust him is because he's acted so shady all game
Cash Money - pretty much just a vibe at this point

on the fence
Drrr - Brian going after her DOES make her look good, though it could just be scum distancing. But if it wasn't for that, I'd think she looked scummy
g0 - I'm constantly back and forth on him. I just wish he'd VOTE! And not only suspect people that are putting heat on him. The heat likely wouldn't be there in the first place if he was voting
Greenday - The claim is still so weird to me. We still haven't seen evidence of his 'insane' cult so until we do, I'm skeptical
Patrick - he's actually making more of an effort but I'm not sure that that really clears him either way
Herm - although I've voted for Mal and Vernon over him, I'm still not completely sold. Especially after that extremely weird claim. Even though it adds up flavor-wise it's still extremely strange and I'm not sure how it'd work. We may have to just wait until if/when the Slayer dies and we see their description for a real verdict to come in
Angi - still have almost no read on her tbh!

scum?
Wikey - something seems off with him. He's usually much more active than he has been, first off. He's been pretty hard on Greenday's case for some reason. Also, he told everyone to look at the people on the DR train which were: Curtis, Boc, Greenday, Vic, Vernon. Four of those are non-mafia, with Greenday still up in the air. It just seems odd to me that he'd point at the people drr's train when I think it was completely reasonable until Perry's claim. I think it might fit best as scum trying to take advantage of there being all non-mafia on a disbanded train
Shawn - he's been really quiet and didn't even cast a vote until yesterday when he voted for Greenday. Questioned the validity of the Brian train (I know I kinda did too shut up). If you look at his posts he seems to spread a fair amount of suspicion around but has only acted on it once

So I SUPPOSE I'll cast a vote before I go. I'll likely be on to change it later if something better comes up so why not. Right now I'm feeling like Shawn's the scummiest

##lynch Shawn

Tricks @ 17/4/2014 13:34

Boc @ 17/4/2014 12:15 Herm why do you always say "I dunno if so and so is scum" and then IMMEDIATELY bandwagon on that person regardless once a train starts up You mean the thing he's been doing this whole game that everyone was talking about for the first half of yesterday? But wasn't bad enough to keep him out of the "maybe town" grouping on your list of reads?

Never said that it makes him scum!

These are my reads:

Strong Town Reads:
Ari - Led train on Brian. I agree with a lot of what he says.
Perry - Claim seems true.

Town Reads:
Boc - Has really put himself out there and led lynches and I think he's too smart to do that as scum. I agree with some of his reads and arguments.
Drrr - Pretty heavy accusations between her and Brian. Claim seems true.
Herm - Claim seems true. Very open and seems sincere.

Unsure:
Ahoda - Doesn't seem to be paying attention but I don't think that excuses him of being scum that isn't paying attention. Possibly town that's not paying attention, though. Hard to read him.
Angi - She hasn't seemed that active and does join a lot of different trains rather than lead them but for meta-gaming reasons I tend to put her closer to a town read as I think that's how she plays.
Greenday - His claim could be true but it has changed at least once since he first stated it. He seems either confused by his role or he's acting confused about it.
Shawn - Doesn't really give enough to read him. Lynched Greenday Day 3 - his only lynch of the game so far but not necessarily a bad lynch imo. Very utr.
Tricks - Has seemed very town/vocal since the beginning but was buddy buddy with Brian Day 3. Was on Herm trains Day 2, Day 3 then switched to Vernon after saying he didn't believe Herm. He did give an explanation for that which makes sense if he believes it.
Wikey - Has been a little inactive, not around at all Day 3. But also seems blunt when he posts.

Scum Reads:
Cash Money - I don't agree with his list of suspects at all. He said he believed Herm, then stayed on that train Day 3 (kind of the opposite of Tricks I guess).
g0 - Has never voted once. Seems to show up when his name is brought up.
Patrick - Day 1 & 2 barely said anything. Top 3 suspects Day 3: Buffy/JJ, Ahoda, and Herm. Wanted to lynch Ahoda. Herm was the popular suspect so it would be an easy statement to make. Makes me go hmm about him. And Cash having him as town on his list also makes me put him here.

Boc's just wondering why I do the things I do. The way I do things makes people suspicious of me, I think it has to do with trusting other people's judgements and going with that and not wanting to really start a lynch train on someone if I'm second guessing myself. Most of the time when people are really sure someone's scum, they're often wrong. Even if I choose to believe that Rose and Perry are town part of me thinks it's a risky lie that worked out. But then I have to go on a gut feeling and that gut feeling tells me it's too fucking ridicilous. Brian was right about one thing actually, instead of filtering my thoughts I just post all my theories and try to be as honest as possible. I go back and forth and instead of keeping my doubts to myself to appear less suspicious I let them out because I want to show honesty. It's mostly inexperience lol.

That took me a while since I'm also working but I see Boc claimed. Seems believable and probably a town role.

Hm, I noticed as well. I'm having doubts whether his claim is cleverly put together or if it's actually a town role. I'll refrain from unlynching at the moment, I want to at least check out Shawn's posting history more.

I believe Boc's claim and it makes sense to me.

##unlynch

Gonna look into my other suspicions when I get home.

##unlynch Boc

Ill bite

Considering your role is kind of shit and I dont think mafia would want to hit you up with better roles still in the mix I think we should set up some kind of plan to find scum.

Pick 3 people, hide behind one of them. 3 people we deem likely scum. Mafia wont know who to hit if they want a double kill and if they dont hit whoever you are hiding behind they might eliminate a good lynch target for them to deflect on later.

If you die AND there are the same amount of kills we have been seeing (as in SK,mafia or vig didnt hit you) one of the 3 people is likely scum. We can discuss who is the best target and if we are wrong the vig can have a go at the other two.

If you survive you can tell us who you hid behind and we can clear that person and possibly save him from being lynched.

I propose the first 3 are Patrick, Angi and Cash Money / Shawn (depending on who gets lynched)

If you are found to be lying you will obviously be lynched :)

I cant think of any flaws to this plan. You can confirm your role and hunt scum in the meanwhile!

##lynch Cash Money (for now)

Herm @ 17/4/2014 18:33

Boc @ 17/4/2014 20:15 Herm why do you always say "I dunno if so and so is scum" and then IMMEDIATELY bandwagon on that person regardless once a train starts up Because I don't know if so and so is scum, I don't want to be gung-ho he's definitely scum like Ahoda and Cash Money have been with me so intensively. I don't want to be that person, and unfortunately. I second-guess myself a lot. It's easier to figure out who is town based on how hard they've been going at me since the start or how they're been trying to get those lynch trains away from me. You have managed to stay out of that quite efficiently, you've both been okay with lynching me as long as there already were lynch votes cast against me or you've been semi-agreeing with me about certain points I make. You just seem to blend in very well. Also, I tend to trust in the people I believe are town so the fact that they also think you're suspicious makes me feel better about jumping on this bandwagon. If I had doubts I wouldn't jump on.

I call it scum hunting. ;)


And yeah I have god awful this game. Probably the worst I've ever done. :(

Surprised I haven't been trained yet.

Leaning towards herm at this point.

I have been very inactive this game. More than I usually am. I have been busy with school and haven't gotten around too much.

Boc, whom have you been hiding behind each night?

Ahoda @ 17/4/2014 14:26

Boc, whom have you been hiding behind each night?

He hid by the same person each night but won't tell us who

Well he should tell. It clears someone if he dies and shows up town. He should hide behind drr to see if she's town tbh.

Hang on, Boc claims his role is the Hider and can hide behind someone every night. He can only die if the person he's hiding behind dies. He said he didn't want to reveal the person he's been hiding behind but I assume Boc is smart and if he used his role effeciently he has been hiding behind Rose who is protected by Perry. It'd be stupid to hide behind anyone else and if it is Rose and he's telling the truth I don't see why he couldn't reveal who he has been hiding behind since Rose can't die anyway. Just food for thought.