Tom Brady @ 5/1/2014 14:37

My initial calling out of scum team: Greenday Kiwi Nofo Patrick Rob Lamps No, I don't have a superman role. Unlike DD, I actually had to put effort into this! So, I am calling out the top three in particular. It is just a vibe I am getting. Kiwi has been quite defensive of Greenday since the start. He definitely cannot be ruled out as scum because he was a late addition. He could have easily tipped the balance enough to be put on scum's team.

That does not explain why you put Greenday on top of your list. He cannot be ruled out, but I do think it is at the very least less likely that he is scum. You seem to turn it into that it makes him more suspicious than others, which I don't get at all (unless you have other reasons to suspect him?).

All votes are anonymous tomorrow, that is.

Lamps @ 5/1/2014 9:31

Tom Brady @ 5/1/2014 14:37 My initial calling out of scum team: Greenday Kiwi Nofo Patrick Rob Lamps No, I don't have a superman role. Unlike DD, I actually had to put effort into this! So, I am calling out the top three in particular. It is just a vibe I am getting. Kiwi has been quite defensive of Greenday since the start. He definitely cannot be ruled out as scum because he was a late addition. He could have easily tipped the balance enough to be put on scum's team. That does not explain why you put Greenday on top of your list. He cannot be ruled out, but I do think it is at the very least less likely that he is scum. You seem to turn it into that it makes him more suspicious than others, which I don't get at all (unless you have other reasons to suspect him?).

Literally his only reason pointed out in his post is that I was defended by Kiwi. Somehow that puts me at the top of his list?! His post telling Colby not to be a retard seems pretty ironic at the moment.

Greenday @ 5/1/2014 15:31

All votes are anonymous tomorrow, that is.

Greenday @ 5/1/2014 15:31

Just for the record, since we're getting this close to the end of the game I'll say this: my role is passive and if I'm lynched today it helps the mafia to absurd amounts. If I'm lynched the town goes dark and all votes are anonymous. That boosts the mafia's chances like crazy. Having said this, anyone lynching me today should then be viewed mafia.

I like to see that work in an onsite game.

What I call irony is accusing me of been retarded and then role claiming when there is literally no heat on you! Well done Greenday!

And Lamps, that list is not in order of most suspicious. I don't claim it is ANYWHERE.

This was just one stream of thoughts I posted earlier this morning as I glanced through the events of the past two days. Forgive if it appears incoherent.

Kru @ 5/1/2014 9:56

Greenday @ 5/1/2014 15:31 All votes are anonymous tomorrow, that is. Greenday @ 5/1/2014 15:31 Just for the record, since we're getting this close to the end of the game I'll say this: my role is passive and if I'm lynched today it helps the mafia to absurd amounts. If I'm lynched the town goes dark and all votes are anonymous. That boosts the mafia's chances like crazy. Having said this, anyone lynching me today should then be viewed mafia. I like to see that work in an onsite game.

I assumed it would mean PMing him your votes instead of posting them in-thread.

So, as I was reading through, I thought Kiwi was pretty insistent that Greenday should not be considered as a lynch candidate yesterday, and I thought it odd. Based just on day 2, I could see Kiwi and Greenday been scum buddies. This is all just speculation. If you notice, in that same post I name DR and im317 as suspects too.

This is by no means me making solid accusations. It is all speculation, me throwing all my thoughts out as they come to me.

I am actually more interested in the DR, im317, Nofo thing.

Tom Brady @ 5/1/2014 10:04

And Lamps, that list is not in order of most suspicious. I don't claim it is ANYWHERE.

Yeah but you still put me in your top 3..... for being defended by someone. You can't be fucking serious unless you're scum trying to spin it away from you.

Well then if we are going to kill Greenday, we must agree on who to lynch tomorrow as well just in case.

Kru @ 5/1/2014 10:08

Well then if we are going to kill Greenday, we must agree on who to lynch tomorrow as well just in case.

That's an awesome idea. Just awesome idea. Because if you lynch me, tomorrow we're going to be in a lynch-or-lose situation and mafia can easily kill one of us.

I am trying to get my head round it.

DR hasn't claims that she was passed the gun and armour last night.

im317 has confirmed that he gave her the armour. I would like to know his reasons for doing so, because DR has hardly been giving off obv town vibes.

And she also claims she was passed the gun. This could be a lie.

Nobody has come forward about passing it to her, which is interesting because I don't think a townie would have anything to lose by doing so. It would clear this up for us.

So, either DR is telling the truth and a townie has yet to come forward, she had the gun from the start and is SK/GF, or she is scum and one of her scum buddies passed it to her, and now dare not come forward for fear of exposing themselves.

I would like to know what Vic meant earlier too, when he said that the role came up as Oppressed Civilian. Is he talking about DR, or himself? Because he claimed he just found out what items his target had, not their alignment too.

Greenday @ 5/1/2014 15:08

Tom Brady @ 5/1/2014 10:04 And Lamps, that list is not in order of most suspicious. I don't claim it is ANYWHERE. Yeah but you still put me in your top 3..... for being defended by someone. You can't be fucking serious unless you're scum trying to spin it away from you.

Sigh...do you read my posts Greenday, or do you just see the parts where mild accusations are thrown at you and go crazy?

I made that post as I was reading through the past two days, which I paid literally no attention to until now. It was just speculation.

I found it odd that Kiwi seemed staunch about the idea that you couldn't be scum because you joined late. Yes, if you must know, I think that did make you suspicious. It is not your actions alone that you are judged on in mafia...your team can give you away all the time.

How do you think town oust inactive scum? See who defends them. I found Kiwi a bit scummy in day 2, I saw him insisting that the odds were low you could have drawn scum, so I figured, hey, that could be useful. Bare in mind there is little to go on, and it is good to bring shit like this up.

I honestly think you are overreacting big time. There was no need at all to claim. I don't even think there is a lynch vote on you!

I think...DR needs to shoot Nofo before this day ends.

Tom Brady @ 5/1/2014 10:22

Greenday @ 5/1/2014 15:08 Tom Brady @ 5/1/2014 10:04 And Lamps, that list is not in order of most suspicious. I don't claim it is ANYWHERE. Yeah but you still put me in your top 3..... for being defended by someone. You can't be fucking serious unless you're scum trying to spin it away from you. Sigh...do you read my posts Greenday, or do you just see the parts where mild accusations are thrown at you and go crazy? I made that post as I was reading through the past two days, which I paid literally no attention to until now. It was just speculation. I found it odd that Kiwi seemed staunch about the idea that you couldn't be scum because you joined late. Yes, if you must know, I think that did make you suspicious. It is not your actions alone that you are judged on in mafia...your team can give you away all the time. How do you think town oust inactive scum? See who defends them. I found Kiwi a bit scummy in day 2, I saw him insisting that the odds were low you could have drawn scum, so I figured, hey, that could be useful. Bare in mind there is little to go on, and it is good to bring shit like this up. I honestly think you are overreacting big time. There was no need at all to claim. I don't even think there is a lynch vote on you!

I had my reasons. I would rather not indulge in them at the moment for fear of my plan not working.

Tom Brady @ 5/1/2014 10:16

I would like to know what Vic meant earlier too, when he said that the role came up as Oppressed Civilian. Is he talking about DR, or himself? Because he claimed he just found out what items his target had, not their alignment too.

Oppressed Civilian is my role, since Kiwi was basically making demands to get information. I would've rather kept my role under wraps for now, but it seems no one would have believed me if I didn't.

I agree with you on Kiwi though. I have gotten weird vibes from him and I think its mainly because he has been questioning everyone about everything. Continuing to ask people about what they think about specific people is kind of odd to me. And the casting suspicion on Shadow on Day 2 was weird to me too, even if it was a joke.

I think Kiwi is smart enough to know that if he contributes a lot than it may make him look very pro-town to the people who aren't as experienced in mafia.