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Post #76: 25th May 2017 10:53 AM 
Yeah it sounds like Angi's action failed because of mine, which it should have.
 
   
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Post #77: 25th May 2017 10:54 AM 
Has Herm's name always been Hern instead of Herm?
 
   
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Post #78: 25th May 2017 11:01 AM 
List of reasons why it is still in town's best interest to lynch Zach today.

1. We have someone who is directly claiming to have scum results on him. Sure, they are doing it anonymously, but it benefits town in the long run if they remain hidden.

2. His claim is shaky and super convenient for mafia that was trying to buy time. Claiming that you are a princess that triggers off both lynches and kills is a convenient way to try and get out of a lynch while also preventing potential vig kill the following evening.

3. Even if he IS telling the truth, his role is one that can lose town the whole game depending on how deep he makes it. The safest approach with his role is to bite the bullet and lynch him now, hoping that some of the pro town roles still alive are able to make use of the second night phase and that mafia does not yet have the correct information to make their optimal kills.

4. I pushed hard for him to get lynched yesterday, and was attacked that same night. Could be a coincidince, I guess. But they probably knew I wasn't gonna let up on this rationale today, and there are a lot of factors lining up here.

5. We learn a ton about Merc, who has both defended Zach directly and has attempted to smear the journalist for no reason and ignored their results. If Zach is scum, Merc is most definitely scum IMO.
 
   
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Post #79: 25th May 2017 11:49 AM 
Primate @ 25/5/2017 11:53
Yeah it sounds like Angi's action failed because of mine, which it should have.



I have wondered the whole time why so I'm glad to learn it's related to your role obviously? Don't answer I'm just talking out loud
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Post #80: 25th May 2017 11:49 AM 
##lynch Zach
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Post #81: 25th May 2017 11:50 AM 
After the Maddie flip I'm back to suspicious of Merc. He had me convinced. But I am a gullible person
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Post #82: 25th May 2017 11:59 AM 
I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill.

I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.

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Post #83: 25th May 2017 1:01 PM 
ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59
I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill.

I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.

I tbought you clarified yesterday that your ability triggers on both lynches and kills?
 
   
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Post #84: 25th May 2017 1:10 PM 
BadgerMcBeaver @ 25/5/2017 14:01
ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59
I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill.

I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.

I tbought you clarified yesterday that your ability triggers on both lynches and kills?


Yeah it does. Sorry I wasn't clear, basically I'm saying y'all should lynch someone else and then just let the vig take care of me tonight. Either way my role is going to trigger, but at least if we lynch someone else today we might hit scum, whereas lynching me is just gonna be a ML.

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Post #85: 25th May 2017 1:11 PM 
That said, if y'all want to just lynch me today and get it over with, I agree that that's also going to yield some info and be a net positive to the town probably. But I think lynching someone else could get the town more information and still result in #PrincessGate being resolved.

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Post #86: 25th May 2017 1:19 PM 
ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59
I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill.

I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.


Since a mafia tracker flipped and there could be a mafia watcher involved, I am very against this idea.
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Post #87: 25th May 2017 1:32 PM 
BadgerMcBeaver @ 24/5/2017 22:38
Mercator @ 24/5/2017 21:15
"The following message had been broadcast to the town:
That was just horrible. What are you people even doing here?"

Am I really the only one that thinks that a town journalist with an investigative power wouldn't have said something else, cleared some town or accused someone else by now?

This is the ridiculous. How can you of all people be complaining about a lack of investigation results when not only did they announce scum in the previous day, but you ignored that information and instead went for the person you had a hunch was sending the message in the first place.

This is the second time that you've come off as attempting to bait the person into outing themselves, which is also super scummy.

My avatar has never been more appropriate.

I didn't ignore it, I did a 180 on it after I realized it wasn't from the person I originally thought it was from, and instead thought it was from who I thought was one of the scummiest people so far.

How can you still think it's legit?
That message today just reeks of scum, not a town journalist?
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Post #88: 25th May 2017 1:33 PM 
vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:19
ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59
I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill.

I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.


Since a mafia tracker flipped and there could be a mafia watcher involved, I am very against this idea.


That's a good point. I dunno though, I feel like we've seen a lot of powerful mafia roles flip so far, so scum team having a watcher as well seems a bit OP??

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Post #89: 25th May 2017 1:48 PM 
ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 14:33
vladykins @ 25/5/2017 14:19
ZacharyB @ 25/5/2017 11:59
I agree with Badger that keeping me alive at this point is a detriment and me getting lynched provides the town a lot of info. That said, I am town, and I'd rather not get mislynched because that just helps scum out by giving them effectively an extra kill.

I think odd night vig should just shoot me tonight. But please don't lynch me.


Since a mafia tracker flipped and there could be a mafia watcher involved, I am very against this idea.


That's a good point. I dunno though, I feel like we've seen a lot of powerful mafia roles flip so far, so scum team having a watcher as well seems a bit OP??


Add onto this whatever strongman type role killed DS, the silencer, plus a potential traitor goon in im? IDK, I feel like it is not likely they have a tracker/watcher combo to go with it.

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Post #90: 25th May 2017 1:55 PM 

Based on what you claimed, mafia get an additional free night either way. If you are lying and mafia, exposing our vig is not a good idea. If you are what you say, mafia get two nights either way, so i see no advantage in waiting until night.
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