Deaths this season:

Areo
Doran
Trystane
Roose
Walda
Balon
Shaggydog
Thorne
Olly
Osha
Summer
Three-Eyed Raven
Leaf
Hodor
Blackfish
Lady Crane
Waif
Rickon
Wun Wun
Ramsey
Pycelle
Lancel
Margaery
Loras
Mace
Kevan
High Sparrow
Tommen


GOD DAMN! Plus plenty of more minor people I left out. That's pretty insane, talk about cleaning house

Curtis @ 26/6/2016 22:12

Stop Ending With Dany Moments

last two scenes would have been better reversed imo.

Leaving us with Cersei being crowned would have had just as big of an impact

So I just noticed there were Martell ships in Dany's fleet so I guess Varys was that fast??

Patrick @ 27/6/2016 3:26

Curtis @ 26/6/2016 22:12 Stop Ending With Dany Moments last two scenes would have been better reversed imo. Leaving us with Cersei being crowned would have had just as big of an impact

Bigger even maybe, since the opening focused on her too. It would've been a nice full circle kind of moment with the piano.

I read an interview where they confirmed the various arcs in episodes don't happen at the same time. It's just a bunch of different storylines spanning various time frames divided into 10 segments.

Dylan @ 26/6/2016 20:05

I am just worried the next two seasons are going to be super black and white. The Good Guy Squad: Dany, Jon Snow, Yara, Dorne etc. Season 7: Defeats Lannisters/Euron Season 8: Defeats White Walkers I feel like the only ambiguous grey area character left is Jaime.

well there are hints of Sansa going against Jon with the Littlefinger thing but I don't see it actually happening
Littlefinger is still a major variable... and could cause havoc now that he didnt get his way

maybe Gendy will become the evil villain and demand his throne

or Xaros Xoran Daxos broke through the steel door and has an army of jewelers supporting him

Omg, I had predicted that as soon as Arya came back to Westeros that she'd kill Walder whilst he was eating. I was fucking RIGHT!

The only differences within my theory and what actually went down was that Arya was still part of the FM whilst she did it, and that she side-tracked from her mission after she 'remembered' herself due to landmarks in the Riverlands.

Another alternacation was that I had not predicted Frey pie to be included (nice little nod to Wyman), which I was pleasently surprised with. But within my theory Arya would say 'The North Remembers' before slitting his throat. Mmmwell, atleast we got Frey Pie!

Fuckin awesome!

And although I wish Doran could have still done his 'Fire and Blood' speech, I'm glad they still partially did it with Varys instead.

Ofcourse that moment in the book will always be more effective due to Arianne, Doran and Quentyn all being involved. Which are truly Martells. But still a nice alteration.

And though the ending was good for Jon, there is def still some uprising tension between LF and Sansa, I hope it develops itself well and doesn't fall flat like Show!Arya in Braavos.

And yeah, it was rather obvious that the Wildfire would come this episode. I didn't expect Margarey to die though, and for sure not Tommen in that way.

twow	+
Even though that part was EPIC in the show, the version in the books (With Aegon and Arianne's forces attacking it whilst it's going on) will be a lot better due to that more characters will be involved. I slightly think that Arianne will die in a similair way that Margarey did now, and I'm quite certain Tommen will get Myrcella's death from the show. With one of the Dornish women being involved.

But we'll have to see. I was slightly hoping for a 'special announcement' at the end where the screen cut to GRRM, and that he was going to reveal the release date of the next book; considering the episode was called: 'The Winds of Winter', I got myself a bit too psyched up about that, but either way we know he's super close to being done, so -soon- (I hope...).

BWB wasn't in the episode at all; could still make room for LSH... Nah jk, she ded. WHAT WILL HAPPEN THOUGH - Arya joins forces with BwB and snatches parts of LSH's role! :-D

Super psyched for next year - it'll come back on around the time I'll be going to New Zealand for a year, so I'll be in a GOOOOD place then -hopefully with twow beside me-. :-D

Sorry - am a bit too excited. So I'll end it here! :)

Also, the Oldtown sequence was AMAZING. Cinematography was amazing, and considering that that location is one of my favorite storylines from the books - I'm super psyched! I was convinced they were going to leave it out when I saw Sam staying at the Wall for S5.

I'm just hoping for Pate, the Sphinx and the Alchemist to be included as well.

I've bashed this show a lot this season, but that was amazing

I like what happened. Arya was randomly thrown in but I've loved the character since the first episode and wanted her to be a bad ass killer ever since she first learned the sword so I loved that scene. P sadistic tho >_>. Most of my favorite characters had their big moments that made me happy. The King in the North bit, Tyrion is hand again, Dany with her army, Lyanna with her "y'all are dumb, the north remembers you fucking cowards". And ya the music was OOOOONNNNNN point.

So despite the many leaps of logic, the bastardization of most of the characters, and some sloppy writing in general, it's easier to forgive when episodes are of this quality.

It was a great watch. Has any episode of the show been this impressive visually before this? It felt like a movie.

Not even a scene in Dorne could ruin it! Olenna telling the Sand Snakes to shut up was very satisfying. Maybe a wink to the audience there too.

The opening sequence was one of the best things the show has ever done. Cersei demonstrating that terrorism can solve any problem. The music was great, it was noticeably different from anything else we've seen on this show, signalling we were about to see something special. Can't wait for her reign of terror, though I am a little surprised at how easy she took the throne.

I am excite to see how this goes down in the books, but a little disappointed that I spoiled the surprise!

Also, R+L=J reveal was satisfying, even though it's been all but confirmed for years. Timing the reveal with the king in the north scene that followed was smart. It put a hint of doubt into what was setup to be a triumphant moment. When Jon's heritage is revealed, shits gonna get complicated.

The only thing I think the episode missed was the white walkers. I would have preferred them to end with them at The Wall or something. I guess they are going to be saved for the final season.

I was expecting some epic white walker shit but I was left cold. Pun intended.

But I realized that the show will be in the last few episodes by the time real white walker stuff happens since that is the final battle I'm assuming.

The leaps in logic were jarring enough to take me out of the show for a minute but with the musical score, the directing, and the Kings Landing stuff it still made for a great episode. This show is dark but Tommen killing himself really fucked with me for a minute. Just the entire wiping out of that city basically is crazy.

Also while I am sad Marg is dead since she was awesome and seemed to have some sort of plan to overthrow Cercsi, her NOT escaping in a cliche' fashion made for a bit of a shock.

My biggest disjointed type question is that Arya was able to be a FM while not being in the FM? It seems like they had a plan or a "rule book" for the FM but then said fuck it and they do whatever. I guess it fits into the fan service part of how much fan service this episode provided.

I knew about R+L= J so the impact wasn't shocking or grand but I guess still nice to finally see it play out on screen. I can't wait until Bran (hopefully) starts interacting with some major characters.

Also what is Varys angle? Isn't it explained better in the books that he is basically anti Lannister and has been playing the long con? Will he harm Tyrion or are they actually close?

And is there somehow anything major in the books that still hasn't appeared on screen besides LSH?

Yes. Many stuff.

Book spoilers obvs

Varys is NOT a Dany supporter in the books, he's actually helping Young Griff aka Aegon Targaryen becoming king, together with Jon Connington (the hand of the king from when Aerys was king). Varys and Illyrio Mopatis are complete bros and are playing a long con. Varys arrives back in KL during the epilogue of A Dance with Dragons after practically not being in 2 books straight, and he kills Maester Pycelle as well as Kevan, in an attempt to make KL weak whilst Cersei continues to fuck shit up (shes a bit more crazy in the books). He wants her to go crazy.

Considering that the show cut out everything that had to do with the Blackfyre rebellion, I could see why they cut out Young Griff (same for why they cut out Bloodraven's past in the show), cause theories are that Aegon is actually the last living Blackfyre remaining, throughout the after math of the Blackfyre rebellion, many men still held allegiance to the Blackfyres, but put up a mummers farce and acted as if they were loyal to the Targaryens who were then in power. And even to this day, there are still many secret Blackfyre followers. And apparently Varys and Illyrio disguised Aegon as a Targaryen to gain a better momentum.

So yeah, the show streamlinef THE FUCK out of that.

Other big storylines that are missimg are Doran's master plan. Which involves Arianne Martell (whom is the heiress of Dorne) as well as Quentyn Martell (his oldest son). Dorne is the only kingdom where a female whom is the oldest of the siblings can take over after the rules dies. So Arianne makes up this 'Queenmaker' plot (whom she doesn't tell anyone besides Arys Oakheart, Darkstar, the Sand Snakes amd Myrcella - and some other random peeps), but anyways she wants to overthrow King Tommen and make Myrcella queen of Westeros considering that Myrcella is older than Tommen.

That doesn't go to well - a POV character dies in that mission- and Doran is fucking pissed. He lets her starve in a tower for days before revealing what the ACTUAL plan is. That is to send Quentyn to Daenerys (to bewed her), and to send Arianne to Aegon (whom is in the Stormlands - he arrived in Westeros in half a book), so that the Martell's can restore the Martell/Targaryen alliance.

Quentyn attempts to get on Daenerys' good side, but she doesn't know him and thus is distrusting of him. He attempts to gain her attention by trying to steal her dragons. So him and some other Dornishmen attempt to steal the dragons and bring them to Dorne, but as you can assume, it doesn't go well, Quentyn foolishly brings a whip, and actually hits one of um with the whip. That dragon then stares at him, thinking: Oh hell naw. Before roasting him. Quentyn dies, thus making a dent in Doran's plan.

Arianne goes to the Stormlands to bewed Aegon Targaryen, and actually arrives there when the Tyrell forces are attacking. We don't know any more than that. But theories suggest that Arianne/Aegon's army will invade KL during Cersei's trial. And that the Trial by Combat still goes as planned, but that the Sand Snakes kill Tommen (sinilairly to how Ellaria killed Myrcella in the show), and that after Cersei sees Tommen dead, that she officially goes Mad Queen and burns the city to the ground. Killing everyone in it (Arianne, Aegon, Margarey, Ellaria, Sand Snakes etc) and that Cersei then escapes King's Landing and runs into the BwB whilst they have a hold of Jaime (since Jaime, Brienne and Pod are in LSH's captivity.)

And some other differences include that Melisandre 'soul swaps' Mance Rayder with Abel (whilst on the pyre). Mance is then in another person's skin, and get's sent to Winterfell with some spear-wives. Whilst there they help Theom and Jeyne (fake Arya) whom Sansa took the role of in the show. Jeyne is mentally fucked because Ramsay does even more fucked up shit to her then showRamsay did to Sansa. So Jeyne thinks it's a trick, so she doesn't want to go. But she does end up escaping with Theon - jumping off the wall- (the fate of Mance is unknown), Theon and Jeyne then run into Stannis' army.

Stannis has Yara (Asha) Greyjoy as a captive as well. Stannis plans on executing Theon, and he sends Jeyne Poole (fake Arya) with Justin Massey to the Wall, and from there out to Braavos -where the REAL Arya is. Theories suggest Arya and fake Arya will meet. Which would be cool, but nothing special. I don't believe in that theory.

Another big difference is the North Remembers storyline. With Davos on a recruiting mission for Stannis. Whilst he speaks to Wyman Manderly, Manderly has Frey pies and reveals the North Remembers plan to Davos with a fucking epic speech. He then sends Davos to Skaagos where Rickon, Shaggydog and Osha are on. It's an island with cannibals and unicorns and is feared by the common folk. Supposedly instrad of Jon resseructing, Rickon leads an army of Cannibals and unicorns whilst on the back of Shaggydog and attacks Ramsay -instead of the Battle of the Bastards-. Rickon is the key to the North Remembers plot, qnd Davos is sent to obtain him.

AND LASTLY (you better fucking enjoy this Simplton, I need to wake up in 5 hours to go to work). Euron Greyjoy, once he returns from Exile, he claims the Seastone Chair, but he's very mysterious -not likw the pathetic show Euron), Theon is never involved in the Kingsmoot, instead it's Victarion Greyjoy. Whom gets sent to Meereen with Dragonbinder (which is a horn Euron has that can make dragons listen to you). Aeron (the priest) refuses to take Euron as a king - as Euron is godless-, and flees the Iron Islands. Asha flees as well to the North (where Stannis then captures her). In the most recent sample chapter og the new book, Euron actually captures Aeron whilst raiding the Reach. And he puts him on his ship, and forcefully makes him drink the Shade of the Evening- Aeron sees all these trippy fore-shadowing images. Euron apparently has an entire collection of priests on his boat -one from each religion- and is planning on doing SOMETHING with that. And considering Euron is into black magic, it isn't anything good. Euron also had valyrian steel armor. He's quite OP'd in the books, but he's a mysterious scary motherfucker!

Those are the MAIN ones, Coldhands is another ome but I need to go to bed and this took a fucking hour to type on the phone, so I hope it answered your question.

I'll try and think of more differences at work. :-)