Well, I like the final 6 or 7 or whatever was all newbs to ibby. Also, one from House A and one from House B. I suppose if I wanted to, I could stick with my original housemate, Schrauben. But Igor brings up a good point. He wanted out of the game. He got that. He was brought back in to be used a tool to advance other players. Not really sure how much of that was his choice. So do I see a deserving winner? I don't know. I don't know much of Lamps' game either.
So since I was evicted a long time ago, I don't remember who was in charge, who was voting, etc., I want to know from each of you, why I left over Buffy. Also, in one or two sentences, tell my why you should get my vote over your opponent? And also, I probably won't be reading opening statements or your answers to other jurors' questions. :P So if you want me to see something, say it in reply to this post.
I already hit on my being voted out. I had a change of heart regarding the game and decided to give it another go if I was lucky enough to be moved back in.
In regards to the vote that you were evicted I was set on Buffy and zersch with that vote. Mainly cause they seemed like the biggest obstacle for me to make it to the end. And when zersch was saved you were just the odd man out of those I hadn't really talked too. Buffy did make a good plea that changed some minds.
You should vote for me over lamps because I was forthright with everyone. I never made an agreement that I didn't keep and lived up to my word. I did have an opportunity to try and evict Tony and worked the final 4 with igor, but didn't because I did agree work with timmah and lamps to get to the final three, even though I may have had a better chance to win against igor. I'm still not sold on that, but I made my choice already and I'm fine with it.
Sorry I've been swamped at work and will do my best to answer each questions tonight. christian, I sure do want your vote, just haven't had a chance to respond, same as a couple of others that have posted.
it's all good. It just seemed like you skipped right by mine. But you know it's jury's job to give the finalists a hard time.
Well, I like the final 6 or 7 or whatever was all newbs to ibby. Also, one from House A and one from House B. I suppose if I wanted to, I could stick with my original housemate, Schrauben. But Igor brings up a good point. He wanted out of the game. He got that. He was brought back in to be used a tool to advance other players. Not really sure how much of that was his choice. So do I see a deserving winner? I don't know. I don't know much of Lamps' game either.
So since I was evicted a long time ago, I don't remember who was in charge, who was voting, etc., I want to know from each of you, why I left over Buffy. Also, in one or two sentences, tell my why you should get my vote over your opponent? And also, I probably won't be reading opening statements or your answers to other jurors' questions. :P So if you want me to see something, say it in reply to this post.
I actively campaigned to save Buffy over you, and here's why:
- Buffy had two compelling reasons for keeping her safe.
-- One was she said she didn't go by houses, which was proven the week before when she nominated Leos over Dylan. That was a thing I liked, because she could be a good person to have a side-deal with for our alliance. At least she wasn't someone completely against us. You weren't either, but Buffy actually proved it the round before.
-- The other was she gave her point points to Badger. Natalie getting 22 points was very scary, and it seemed like there was a huge block trying to save her. Since Buffy gave her points to Badger, and you gave yours to Natalie, Buffy was one person that was not part of that block if it existed. I myself also gave my points to Badger, so we had something in common there too which was nice.
It wasn't my initial thought to boot you over Buffy, but for the above reasons I changed my mind. The whole idea of this block trying to save Natalie made me (and Dylan) think the vote would have been MUCH closer than it actually was. Such a close vote with Buffy being safe, could have brought her to our side. This part of the plan obviously failed, because you left by a landslide.
I should get your vote, because I played the better game from start to end. I actually campaigned to keep myself safe and had the right social connections to further myself in the game, even when targeted.
Luck really wasn't on my side. I never got lucky enough for an hoh win to "prove" where I stood with you and certain other people. I did actually trust you, and I don't think I ever lied to anyone about anything. I said I'd vote out Natalie and I did. I just never mentioned I was going to try to rally the votes to bring her back the following week. haha I completely understand your decision though. I was a bigger threat than Buffy. ;)
Christian you're as much of a little bitch on this game as you were the last. I was going over you but I talked and talked to convince these guys to keep me . Mostly Dylan and lamps.
My only regret in this game is that I couldn't vote you off myself - again. :p
And that sometimes the members of the jury squabble with each other. I couldn't resist taking a dig at you, B. You know deep down, I don't not like you. :P
Since theres lots of questions, I feel like asking now too! Can't be left out! ;)
These are for both of you.
Rank the jurors in order of who you think had the best game play from best to worst. Please explain why as well. I want to know why you think it, whether or not anyone else agrees, its not them I am asking, it is you. I want your personal opinion on it please. Be honest, no kissing ass.
Also, give me a song to explain your game. Creativity is key!
1. Timmah - he did a really good job of communicating with most everyone in the house I don't think he was even put up for eviction until igor put him up with Dylan. This too could have been a huge turn and him managing to keep igor on his side afterwards was key to making it as far as he did.
2. Dylan - I hated seeing Dylan leave he had set himself up with multiple people and I really thought he was going to make a strong run towards the finals and may have if not for igor winning HoH and POV, that round.
3. Igor - love him or hate him he had deals or tried to make deals all over the place. I trusted him completely at first when I was trying to get established and looking for alliances. That last until he put up Dylan and Timmah, then I trusted him less but still felt he was being honest with me. But his game overall was very good he just didn't have the solid relationships to rely on that he need to make it to the end.
4. Buffy - she played a tough game and was a tough out. I was certain I wanted her out twice and she changed my mind once and had me seriously thinking about it the other. She's very good at communicating and manipulating the game in general.
5. Tony - played a sneaky game and him making it to the final four as more a product of voting out igor when we had the chance. I tired to communicate with him several times but he rarely responded and when he did it was short and sweet to say the least. I'm not still not sure who he was working with or trying to work with, which in a game of his nature is pretty sure to do.
6. Herm - we talked some, I was never made aware that he was an original member of the alliance I became a part of. Helping start that is was huge, but not maintaining the relationship was a game killer for him.
7. Nobert - he was also a tough out, he had several people on his side and I was shocked when igor used the POV on him and hat ultimately spelled doom for Buffy who wasn't even one of Tony's nominees.
8. Zersch - I think I conversed with zersch one time the entire game, seemed to rely on some relationships early on and when they went away he didn't really develop and new relationships.
9. Christian - didn't really have many conversations with him the only reason I list him last cause I really don't know much about the game he played.
Hey guys a lot of what I read brought insight to your gameplay
Daniel, I know we both didn't talk much, about two pages worth of PM's and it was very light hearted. I didn't get to truly know your game play except from what I heard from others so if I could get a brief summary (like 2 to 3 sentences on what you did each round.
Sure! Hope this helps:
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Week 1 - I came in planning to be kind of laid back. Went to HOH NoFo to offer him a deal to keep him safe if he kept me safe, which he took. I also talked to Dylan, and to Badger (wanted to keep him, but he ended up being evicted).
Week 2 - Went to HOH Herm to offer him a deal and he took it too - we kept talking after that.
Week 3 - Went to Moose, who I voted against in week 1, with a deal... that didn't end well, and I went up. But then Herm pulled me into the alliance with Dylan and Timmah. I approached Tony for another vote, and he suggested we'd work together which I gladly accepted.
Week 4 - Became houseless, did nothing.
Week 5 - House swap and I won HOH, you and Natalie were my noms since I felt like Christian was more open about where he stood, and Igor and Tony had talked to me before. You won veto, and I had to make a tough decision. Christian was so open, and I wasn't really sure where Igor stood game-wise, plus he was very social so I assumed he had a good chance of staying - so Igor went up and Natalie went home.
Week 6 - Merge, Schrauben returned and won HOH. I immediately went to him with a deal that I'd keep him safe, which didn't even seem necessary since he was good with Timmah and Dylan who had spent some points on Schrauben. With Buffy and Christian as final noms, Buffy was the initial target, but Dylan and I planned to change that as a result of Buffy's campaign (see Christian's question).
Week 7 - Dylan won HOH, so I was good. You and Zersch were final noms and neither of you campaigned to me. My alliance seemed very indifferent, but I felt there was a slight preference for Zersch leaving so went with that.
Week 8 - Igor's HOH, covered most of that in my answer to Dylan. TLDR: offered to keep Igor safe in return, voted to keep my final 2 ally Dylan.
Week 9 - Tony won HOH, kind of expected to be safe but still sent him a PM. He didn't discuss noms with anyone that I know of. Tried to figure out (with Timmah and Schrauben) who brought up the rumors about Schrauben/Timmah/Dylan being in an alliance based on "online users".
Week 10 - Igor's 2nd HOH, and this time I went up, with Herm. Schrauben and Timmah told me I was safe and I sent Tony, making sure I would be safe. I tried to get you to use veto on me too, felt like I had to give that a shot even though it was a long shot :p
Week 11 - The point point thing, covered most of that in answer to Igor's question. When Timmah won veto, he told me he wanted to use it on me, but that he would like me to vote you out. You went up, and I did what Timmah asked me. When Schrauben seemed open to tying it, I did do a late attempt to convince Timmah that it should be Igor going, but that was too late and didn't work.
Week 12 - Timmah's HOH. He told me I was safe, but that Schrauben would go up. I was initially very confused, and still think it was a bit of a risk for the alliance. Used veto on Schrauben and asked him to vote Igor out. I considered using it on Tony under the same terms and told Tony what I was up to.
Week 13 - I won HOH, but did nothing because once I saw the thread, Tony was already evicted.
Week 14 - I won final HOH and took Schrauben.
Thanks Lamps, I like how concise this was and gives me a solid idea of what went on! Best of luck
Tried to figure out (with Timmah and Schrauben) who brought up the rumors about Schrauben/Timmah/Dylan being in an alliance based on "online users".
Did you guys really not know this? I'm confused because I told Dylan I noticed - it was actually Zersch who pointed it out to me. We were PMIng each other about those three PMing back and forth one night lol. I think Jeff said he noticed too? Anyway, that was kind of my opening with Dylan via IM which helped get me off the block. I mean that wasn't the reason - just the icebreaker since I figured I was going lol.
Dylan admitted he was working with Timmah/Schrauben but never brought Lamps up, although it seemed obvious with how Lamps changed in wanting to keep me that he was involved with them, too. I just didn't really know how Igor fit in but I knew he was doing a pretty good job and probably had deals everywhere. I would've flipped because I didn't trust Jeff or Igor at that point but I get it - you had enough allies. :P
I guess I'll make a last plea for Lamps. I think he did a good job of navigating this game. I think he made a deal with almost everyone in the jury, he was aware when he was in danger and was able to weasel into safety. Even with a target on his back he ended up navigating the game. Also he wasn't a douchebag, so there ya go. Hope you can win man.
I guess I'll make a last plea for Lamps. I think he did a good job of navigating this game. I think he made a deal with almost everyone in the jury, he was aware when he was in danger and was able to weasel into safety. Even with a target on his back he ended up navigating the game. Also he wasn't a douchebag, so there ya go. Hope you can win man.
Ok a few last comments in response to the things posted:
@Herm: glad we cleared those things up! I really appreciated those points man and I'm sorry we had this miscommunication!
@Timmah: it's funny how one thing led to the other. When Dylan and I discussed, our F2 was created partly because we thought you two would take each other lol.
@Buffy: well, we pinned it on you basically, but we didn't really know for sure. I didn't know Zersch (and Nobert) saw it too.
@Igor: Thanks, I appreciate the nice words!
Still owe Tony a song, and I chose this one (sorry may not be everyone's cup of tea :p )
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This game was about numbers, numbers in terms of allies, and I had the numbers on my side when I was on the block. The song is also about balancing on the line between deceit and truthfulness, which I definitely had to deal with given the deals that I tried to make with the HOHs + staying loyal to my allies. Finally, it's also about doubt setting in, which certainly played a huge role this game.
So, I'll probably read anything else in here before I vote but I'm leaning toward just voting for the person who didn't bullshit me the round I left because what was the point of that? It was just insulting.
