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Congrats America. You have officially screwed the world!
 
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Post #798: 3rd May 2017 3:40 PM 
Primate @ 3/5/2017 14:51
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

Just wow!


As I saw posted elsewhere, the DoJ isn't going after the cops who shot Alton Sterling because they are too busy going after the chick who laughed at Jeff Sessions.
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The whole "that's racist" argument always nullifies any legit point the person is trying to make for me.
 
   
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Post #801: 3rd May 2017 4:53 PM 
vladykins @ 3/5/2017 15:40
Primate @ 3/5/2017 14:51
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

Just wow!


As I saw posted elsewhere, the DoJ isn't going after the cops who shot Alton Sterling because they are too busy going after the chick who laughed at Jeff Sessions.


No shit, Sessions hates black people
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Post #802: 3rd May 2017 6:16 PM 
vladykins @ 3/5/2017 13:40
Primate @ 3/5/2017 14:51
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

Just wow!


As I saw posted elsewhere, the DoJ isn't going after the cops who shot Alton Sterling because they are too busy going after the chick who laughed at Jeff Sessions.

She's actually being prosecuted for contempt for what she did after she was told to leave, she came there with the intent to protest Sessions.

But that wouldn't get as many clicks.
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Post #803: 4th May 2017 12:58 AM 
Primate @ 3/5/2017 16:06
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The whole "that's racist" argument always nullifies any legit point the person is trying to make for me.


aka no one can make a legit point that something is racist. how convenient!
 
 
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Post #804: 4th May 2017 7:11 AM 
Mercator @ 3/5/2017 18:16
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Primate @ 3/5/2017 14:51
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

Just wow!


As I saw posted elsewhere, the DoJ isn't going after the cops who shot Alton Sterling because they are too busy going after the chick who laughed at Jeff Sessions.

She's actually being prosecuted for contempt for what she did after she was told to leave, she came there with the intent to protest Sessions.

But that wouldn't get as many clicks.


Actually, that stems from them deciding to remove her because she laughed.

It's kind of like the officer who sees "suspicious black person" and pulls them over, gets nervous that they are going for a gun, and shoots them. The "reason" the cop shot was "he was going for a gun". The ultimate reason it happened is the cop pulled him over for being "suspicious black man".
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Post #805: 4th May 2017 10:00 AM 
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The whole "that's racist" argument always nullifies any legit point the person is trying to make for me.


aka no one can make a legit point that something is racist. how convenient!

No, but shoving it out there in lieu of a legit argument is all too common.
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Post #806: 4th May 2017 10:09 AM 
Mercator @ 3/5/2017 17:16
vladykins @ 3/5/2017 13:40
Primate @ 3/5/2017 14:51
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

Just wow!


As I saw posted elsewhere, the DoJ isn't going after the cops who shot Alton Sterling because they are too busy going after the chick who laughed at Jeff Sessions.

She's actually being prosecuted for contempt for what she did after she was told to leave, she came there with the intent to protest Sessions.

But that wouldn't get as many clicks.

No, the justice department pressed disorderly conduct charges for the laughter. The second charge was for parading on federal grounds, for the things she did as she was being escorted out. Contempt was never in the mix.

She has admitted that it was calculated on her part.
 
   
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Post #807: 4th May 2017 12:27 PM 
Primate @ 4/5/2017 8:09
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vladykins @ 3/5/2017 13:40
Primate @ 3/5/2017 14:51
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/2/15518574/desiree-fairooz-justice-department

Just wow!


As I saw posted elsewhere, the DoJ isn't going after the cops who shot Alton Sterling because they are too busy going after the chick who laughed at Jeff Sessions.

She's actually being prosecuted for contempt for what she did after she was told to leave, she came there with the intent to protest Sessions.

But that wouldn't get as many clicks.

No, the justice department pressed disorderly conduct charges for the laughter. The second charge was for parading on federal grounds, for the things she did as she was being escorted out. Contempt was never in the mix.

She has admitted that it was calculated on her part.

Yeah I didn't double check what the actual charges were, but she was found guilty of the second charge, not the first one, and they said that she shouldn't have been removed for laughing.

vladykins @ 4/5/2017 5:11

Actually, that stems from them deciding to remove her because she laughed.

It's kind of like the officer who sees "suspicious black person" and pulls them over, gets nervous that they are going for a gun, and shoots them. The "reason" the cop shot was "he was going for a gun". The ultimate reason it happened is the cop pulled him over for being "suspicious black man".

It's more like the police pulling over a car with a "FUCK THE POLICE" sticker, but the driver doesn't stop the car and then gets arrested for refusing to stop.
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Post #808: 4th May 2017 12:33 PM 
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The whole "that's racist" argument always nullifies any legit point the person is trying to make for me.

aka no one can make a legit point that something is racist. how convenient!

No, but shoving it out there in lieu of a legit argument is all too common.
http://fairytalesoftheworld.com/quick-reads/the-boy-who-cried-wolf/


aka no one can make a legit argument that something is racist. reminder that there was indeed a wolf at the end of that story.

look, i'm not disagreeing that some people play the 'racist' card more than they should. but that doesn't mean that no one can ever flag something as racist without immediately invalidating themselves. some things are racist, primate. by what magic does labeling them properly instantly cause them to become their opposite?

so i'm just going to assume that you weren't really reading that closely, scanned to the second paragraph, noticed the dreaded R word, and so you just plugged your ears and went lalalalala. because otherwise, you're apparently taking the position that it's not racist to advocate that black people should have remained in chains while slavery gradually dissipated with no deadline and zero legislative pressure. if you're not understanding what "antebellum gradualists" refers to, just look it up.
 
 
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Post #809: 4th May 2017 1:06 PM 
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vladykins @ 4/5/2017 5:11

Actually, that stems from them deciding to remove her because she laughed.

It's kind of like the officer who sees "suspicious black person" and pulls them over, gets nervous that they are going for a gun, and shoots them. The "reason" the cop shot was "he was going for a gun". The ultimate reason it happened is the cop pulled him over for being "suspicious black man".

It's more like the police pulling over a car with a "FUCK THE POLICE" sticker, but the driver doesn't stop the car and then gets arrested for refusing to stop.


While I'd argue your situation isn't the same, I'll bite on it anyway:

Is "Fuck the police" sticker a reasonable reason to pull someone over? It's not against the law and so that is not a legitimate stop. So any "crime" that results of an illegal stop (resisting arrest, fleeing the scene, etc.) would be invalid.
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