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Post #751: 20th Dec 2017 11:00 PM 
men are all rapists!!!!!
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Post #752: 20th Dec 2017 11:11 PM 
Keep up the good fight, Igor!
 
   
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Post #753: 21st Dec 2017 1:35 AM 
Well, she did start off by saying it was an unpopular opinion.
 
   
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Post #754: 21st Dec 2017 7:16 AM 
Igor @ 20/12/2017 22:43
false rape accusations happen all the time, shit always comes up about guys getting out of prison after years and years after some bitch accuses them and it turns out to be false. most of the time nothing happens to her tho!


Yes, all those cases like.....

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https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/

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Post #755: 21st Dec 2017 8:47 AM 
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But if a woman without any history of dramatic falsehoods says she went home with a man and, after they’d kissed a while consensually, he held her down and forced her into sex—in the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary, you can just assume it’s true.

Interesting read.

However, this paragraph irritated me. If a woman has no prior history, just assume she is telling the truth? And what if the accused has no prior history of violent behaviour? Maybe you should assume they are innocent then.

You have to take these things on a case by case basis, and consider all aspects, including the character of the accused.

And I get that the premise of the article is that given how the statistics for exoneration indicate false accusations are rare, it's unlikely for someone to lie about rape. But when judging an individual case, I'd say it would be bad practice to use statistics to influence your opinion.
 
   
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Post #756: 21st Dec 2017 8:55 AM 
Also, I'd argue that the effects of false accusations are not limited to convictions.

I think that the mere accusation alone can be enough to besmirch someones reputation and potentially ruin personal relationships.

On a personal note, I know somebody who can no longer see his kids because his ex wife accused him of abusing her. He wasn't convicted of anything, nothing was proven, and knowing him personally, I don't think he was abusive at all.

But on her word alone, he is now estranged from his children.
 
   
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Post #757: 21st Dec 2017 8:57 AM 
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 7:16
Igor @ 20/12/2017 22:43
false rape accusations happen all the time, shit always comes up about guys getting out of prison after years and years after some bitch accuses them and it turns out to be false. most of the time nothing happens to her tho!


Yes, all those cases like.....

<crickets>


https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/



If you actually read that article it literally says all the way through that false rape accusations are a thing that happens with some rgularity, it just states that the vast majority of the time there is some kind of motive for making those claims.

Your "mic drop" article literally contradicts the point I'm assuming you were trying to make.

Keep swinging though slugger, maybe one day you'll be the one with a false rape accusation hung around your neck and see if you feel the same way
 
   
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Post #758: 21st Dec 2017 9:15 AM 
"If some innocent men's reputations have to take a hit in the process of undoing the patriarchy, that is a price I am absolutely willing to pay"

I don't think that's how self-sacrifice works ...
 
   
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Post #759: 21st Dec 2017 9:28 AM 
I agree with the writer
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Post #760: 21st Dec 2017 9:45 AM 
Chris25 @ 21/12/2017 8:57
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 7:16
Igor @ 20/12/2017 22:43
false rape accusations happen all the time, shit always comes up about guys getting out of prison after years and years after some bitch accuses them and it turns out to be false. most of the time nothing happens to her tho!


Yes, all those cases like.....

<crickets>


https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/



If you actually read that article it literally says all the way through that false rape accusations are a thing that happens with some rgularity, it just states that the vast majority of the time there is some kind of motive for making those claims.

Your "mic drop" article literally contradicts the point I'm assuming you were trying to make.

Keep swinging though slugger, maybe one day you'll be the one with a false rape accusation hung around your neck and see if you feel the same way


I can't help you if you have no reading comprehension, but I can try. Please do the following:

1) Read Igor's statement above.
2) Read the article.
3) Compare Igor's statement to the facts presented in the article.
4) Learn to argue what is being discussed, not what you've decided to change the discussion to.

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Post #761: 21st Dec 2017 10:56 AM 
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 9:45
Chris25 @ 21/12/2017 8:57
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 7:16
Igor @ 20/12/2017 22:43
false rape accusations happen all the time, shit always comes up about guys getting out of prison after years and years after some bitch accuses them and it turns out to be false. most of the time nothing happens to her tho!


Yes, all those cases like.....

<crickets>


https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/



If you actually read that article it literally says all the way through that false rape accusations are a thing that happens with some rgularity, it just states that the vast majority of the time there is some kind of motive for making those claims.

Your "mic drop" article literally contradicts the point I'm assuming you were trying to make.

Keep swinging though slugger, maybe one day you'll be the one with a false rape accusation hung around your neck and see if you feel the same way


I can't help you if you have no reading comprehension, but I can try. Please do the following:

1) Read Igor's statement above.
2) Read the article.
3) Compare Igor's statement to the facts presented in the article.
4) Learn to argue what is being discussed, not what you've decided to change the discussion to.



Bless your heart

 
   
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Post #762: 21st Dec 2017 12:48 PM 

Anyone who thinks chris doesn't care about women doesn't realize he is actually an older woman from South Carolina.
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Post #763: 21st Dec 2017 1:00 PM 
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 9:45
Chris25 @ 21/12/2017 8:57
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 7:16
Igor @ 20/12/2017 22:43
false rape accusations happen all the time, shit always comes up about guys getting out of prison after years and years after some bitch accuses them and it turns out to be false. most of the time nothing happens to her tho!


Yes, all those cases like.....

<crickets>


https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations/



If you actually read that article it literally says all the way through that false rape accusations are a thing that happens with some rgularity, it just states that the vast majority of the time there is some kind of motive for making those claims.

Your "mic drop" article literally contradicts the point I'm assuming you were trying to make.

Keep swinging though slugger, maybe one day you'll be the one with a false rape accusation hung around your neck and see if you feel the same way


I can't help you if you have no reading comprehension, but I can try. Please do the following:

1) Read Igor's statement above.
2) Read the article.
3) Compare Igor's statement to the facts presented in the article.
4) Learn to argue what is being discussed, not what you've decided to change the discussion to.



All the time can be interpreted that they happen with some regularity, I never said it was a majority or anything like that. Once again you're stretching what I said to fit your agenda.
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Post #764: 21st Dec 2017 1:01 PM 
Vlady, you and your agenda again!
 
   
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Post #765: 21st Dec 2017 2:01 PM 
Igor @ 21/12/2017 13:00
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 9:45
Chris25 @ 21/12/2017 8:57
vladykins @ 21/12/2017 7:16
Igor @ 20/12/2017 22:43
, shit always comes up about guys getting out of prison after years and years after some bitch accuses them and it turns out to be false.


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All the time can be interpreted that they happen with some regularity, I never said it was a majority or anything like that. Once again you're stretching what I said to fit your agenda.


I've bolded your statement, which somehow has been "stretched" to fit my agenda. You bare the one claiming shit *always* coming out and guys get let out of prison. My article shows this to be a patently false statement, but you can either admit your statement was absolutely wrong and that your perception of such things is based upon a biased assumption with no real facts to back it, or you can double down on your position like Trump, declare facts are "fake news" and then declare a bigly victory in the discussion.




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