Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 19:07

Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:06 Unless you meant the dogs vs cats thing, then yes I'm a little mad that cats even exist. Cats exist so the weaker members of society have something to focus on when they move away from organised religion

Not sure why you're trying to troll me. I have no dog in the religion fight. I do get a kick out of people who rail against a belief system while trying to force their own beliefs on others. It's a great illustration of the real issues that doom organized religion and proof that the cure is far more complicated than banning religion.

A better use of time may be to rail against insecurity.

But cats do suck.

Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:16

Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 19:07 Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:06 Unless you meant the dogs vs cats thing, then yes I'm a little mad that cats even exist. Cats exist so the weaker members of society have something to focus on when they move away from organised religion Not sure why you're trying to troll me. I have no dog in the religion fight. I do get a kick out of people who rail against a belief system while trying to force their own beliefs on others. It's a great illustration of the real issues that doom organized religion and proof that the cure is far more complicated than banning religion.

Where am I trying to troll you? Stop assuming every conversation is a troll fest. I thought we were agreeing that organised religion is bullshit?

for those of you bashing organized religion in general, i'm wondering what specific aspect you're complaining about that is never seen in large non-religious organizations.

Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 19:20

Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:16 Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 19:07 Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:06 Unless you meant the dogs vs cats thing, then yes I'm a little mad that cats even exist. Cats exist so the weaker members of society have something to focus on when they move away from organised religion Not sure why you're trying to troll me. I have no dog in the religion fight. I do get a kick out of people who rail against a belief system while trying to force their own beliefs on others. It's a great illustration of the real issues that doom organized religion and proof that the cure is far more complicated than banning religion. Where am I trying to troll you? Stop assuming every conversation is a troll fest. I thought we were agreeing that organised religion is bullshit?

I love crawfish.

Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:23

Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 19:20 Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:16 Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 19:07 Primate @ 24/12/2017 1:06 Unless you meant the dogs vs cats thing, then yes I'm a little mad that cats even exist. Cats exist so the weaker members of society have something to focus on when they move away from organised religion Not sure why you're trying to troll me. I have no dog in the religion fight. I do get a kick out of people who rail against a belief system while trying to force their own beliefs on others. It's a great illustration of the real issues that doom organized religion and proof that the cure is far more complicated than banning religion. Where am I trying to troll you? Stop assuming every conversation is a troll fest. I thought we were agreeing that organised religion is bullshit? I love crawfish.

Not sure why you are trying to troll me

Cactus @ 23/12/2017 19:22

for those of you bashing organized religion in general, i'm wondering what specific aspect you're complaining about that is never seen in large non-religious organizations.

Exactly.

It does depend on the scope and function of the group. Atheists in groups like this thread are a religious group just like any other with the exact same behaviors they claim to loathe.

Political parties in the US are the most interesting to me. They place faith in people and ideals that have absolutely been proven false, faulty and corrupt over and over again.

Cactus @ 24/12/2017 1:22

for those of you bashing organized religion in general, i'm wondering what specific aspect you're complaining about that is never seen in large non-religious organizations.

The idea that you are judged after death based on how many times you have told your deity you love them

I think Primate was molested by a cat as a kid.

PORL @ 23/12/2017 19:42

Incidentally, Isaac Newton is widely regarded as the smartest man to have ever lived and he believed in God. I really don't feel comfortable calling the smartest person in known history "delusional".

I think the whole "Newton believed in God" thing is kind of bullshit imo.

There is soooo much we've learned about science since the time of Isaac Newton and I would have to think that as a man of science when confronted with the truths that we know today he would not be able to say that he believed in God.

Either that or he's as clueless as the rest of these fucks.

Primate @ 23/12/2017 21:04

Darkus Black @ 23/12/2017 19:00 Primate @ 24/12/2017 0:56 It seems everybody has the concept of God confused with that of religion. Get Curtis to change the title to "Christian bashing" or "thread for people who feel the need to evangelize while denying religious affiliation " Why are you mad? I'm not mad. I think organized religion has always started with positive goals in mind, but inevitably leads to an abuse of power, and have no use for it.

That's because the church is corrupted and filled with corrupted, fallible people

Paul, was a bit confused about your post though. Wouldn't people of science have issues with knowledge gaps or unexplained things? And those of belief would just believe that it happened or have faith in those areas?

Didn't know if that was a typo or if that was meant, but I found that interesting.

In science he vast majority of things aren't ever completely explained, the idea of science is "this is the best we know on this subject RIGHT NOW"

Scientific people if they are being truly scientific should believe that any ideas they have are subject to change based on new evidence.

I wouldn't say they would have issue with knowledge gaps, if anything they would probably try to come up with a theory to explain the gaps and start testing to see what they can find out.

Also, i fundamentally disagree with Paul where he said that science has limitation where our knowledge ends. That might be true at this second but as more solid tested evidence comes in, our knowledge continues to expand and the questions that we have today that a lot of these whack job jesus freaks continue to site over and over again, will eventually be answered and "God" will no longer be allowed to hide in the gaps of our knowledge.