I haven't looked at an FE Survivor thread in weeks so it's funny coming back and seeing that you all hate Ben when I've been loving him in my Survivor isolation for the past few weeks.

I'm still a hardcore Mike fan though and I don't even have reasons why anymore. I think Ryan is really the only person I wouldn't care to see win at this point.

Dadd @ 14/12/2017 15:52

Ben playing the idol early wasn't a big deal, you see people bring one out all the time and put it around their neck. Jeff shouldn't have accepted it, and said, "we'll validate when it's time". Or told him to go sit down, we'll get to that soon. But it wouldn't have altered anything, everyone was afraid he had one, he could have pulled a fake one out and no one would have voted for him.

Yeah, but in the past people could call the bluff or there is a chance it isn't real. Then there is dilemma for the actual person to play it or not and risk going home. The fact he got to play it before votes meant Ashley got pretty screwed in my opinion. I don't think Ben would have put his sole vote on Ashley.

But also Ben is a dumb dumb as he could have easily held the idol and probably got away with it if he bluffed it.

Bryce @ 14/12/2017 18:15

Dadd @ 14/12/2017 15:52 Ben playing the idol early wasn't a big deal, you see people bring one out all the time and put it around their neck. Jeff shouldn't have accepted it, and said, "we'll validate when it's time". Or told him to go sit down, we'll get to that soon. But it wouldn't have altered anything, everyone was afraid he had one, he could have pulled a fake one out and no one would have voted for him. Yeah, but in the past people could call the bluff or there is a chance it isn't real. Then there is dilemma for the actual person to play it or not and risk going home. The fact he got to play it before votes meant Ashley got pretty screwed in my opinion. I don't think Ben would have put his sole vote on Ashley. But also Ben is a dumb dumb as he could have easily held the idol and probably got away with it if he bluffed it.

I mean, I agree with you, but I can also see wanted to ensure security from Ben's perspective, so I don't think he was that dumb to just go ahead and play it. At F6 I definitely don't see him taking a risk that big.

Mads @ 14/12/2017 18:17

Bryce @ 14/12/2017 18:15 Dadd @ 14/12/2017 15:52 Ben playing the idol early wasn't a big deal, you see people bring one out all the time and put it around their neck. Jeff shouldn't have accepted it, and said, "we'll validate when it's time". Or told him to go sit down, we'll get to that soon. But it wouldn't have altered anything, everyone was afraid he had one, he could have pulled a fake one out and no one would have voted for him. Yeah, but in the past people could call the bluff or there is a chance it isn't real. Then there is dilemma for the actual person to play it or not and risk going home. The fact he got to play it before votes meant Ashley got pretty screwed in my opinion. I don't think Ben would have put his sole vote on Ashley. But also Ben is a dumb dumb as he could have easily held the idol and probably got away with it if he bluffed it. I mean, I agree with you, but I can also see wanted to ensure security from Ben's perspective, so I don't think he was that dumb to just go ahead and play it. At F6 I definitely don't see him taking a risk that big.

Ensuring security is just playing the idol, before or after. But if you tell everyone you have it and you play it before the vote, you give them all time to do something about it.

If he just played it outright or didn't "for sure" play it, there would be some chaos on whether or not to still vote Ben or switch it up. He missed a chance to divide the group. Now they're still 4 strong from Ben's perspective.

Dyl @ 14/12/2017 16:56

Has anyone tried to validate an idol before tribal? I feel like it might be yes. That's the only way I'd have true Igor level outrage over Jeff accepting it

Tony has but it was after votes were written down.
I'm almost positive it has never happened before votes were written.
My outrage is always justified.

Finally caught up to this.

Pretty stellar cast. Dr. Mike/War Vet guy 10/10.

You must be on episode 1-2

Igor @ 14/12/2017 18:12

Dyl @ 14/12/2017 16:56 Has anyone tried to validate an idol before tribal? I feel like it might be yes. That's the only way I'd have true Igor level outrage over Jeff accepting it Tony has but it was after votes were written down. I'm almost positive it has never happened before votes were written. My outrage is always justified.

But has anyone tried before?

I'm guessing that Jeff would love them doing in and accept it ahead of time, just for the extra drama.

Most are trying to be clever and blindside, Ben was more interested in laughing at everyone, and telling them "screw you", so he pulled it early.