Timmah is the play today. Mass claim is never the play.

ZERSCH! Hello

Hey

I'm joat.

I did one good thing and four dumb ones.

Primate @ 20/8/2017 22:46

Timmah is the play today. Mass claim is never the play.

i'll probably end up lynching timmah

If I'm the play, then at least lynch me instead of shooting me so we can answer the question on me and also have another bite at taking out scum also

2 joat claims today. That's nice

Timmah @ 20/8/2017 22:47

If I'm the play, then at least lynch me instead of shooting me so we can answer the question on me and also have another bite at taking out scum also

i agree, thats why i think lamps should be shot

Zersch @ 20/8/2017 22:46

Hey I'm joat. I did one good thing and four dumb ones.

Okay, this is why I was confused at Mittens claim lol. You pretty much soft-claimed JOAT since D2.

Who else claimed jploat?

thisisbad @ 20/8/2017 22:47

2 joat claims today. That's nice

thats the longshot ploy I was talking about yesterday.

I thought for sure Zersch was JOAT so Mittens' claim #blindsided me

JJ @ 20/8/2017 20:48

Zersch @ 20/8/2017 22:46 Hey I'm joat. I did one good thing and four dumb ones. Okay, this is why I was confused at Mittens claim lol. You pretty much soft-claimed JOAT since D2.

That's what I thought on d2.

Primate @ 20/8/2017 20:48

Who else claimed jploat?

Mittens. It was a page or so back

i scanned maddie n1, protected myself n2, blocked dadd n3, and watched brian n4.

i also used the mirror someone gave me to watch myself last night.

zip. zil. zero info.

Timmah

Spoiler

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D1: A couple posts seeming to jokingly accuse Ahoda. Says he didn't kill Ender. Called Ender town, got called out by Primate, gave "lol idk what I was thinking" response. Says he's town since it's FE and there's usually a last minute swap. Says he's getting votes for mistake about calling Ender town. Final Day 1 vote count: Patrick (7/15): Primate, Zersch, Vic, Ben, Jamie, Vlady, David Timmah (3/15): DS, DR, Merc Vic (2/15): Ahoda, TiB Christian (1/15): Spin Ahoda (0/15): Spin Vlady (1/15): Lamps Angi (0/15): JJ Herm Primate (0/15): DR, Merc Ben (0/15): Ahoda Patrick has been lynched. ( I was going to say it was interesting there are at least two mafia on Patrick's train and Timmah was next highest train, but Ben and Jamie were on the Patrick lynch when Timmah only had one vote.) D2: Starts out day FOSing Merc for surviving an attack, is mad that people always suspect him when he survives attacks but everyone is okay with Merc surviving. Feels off about Shadow/Merc thing. Doesn't know what Farlig is claiming happened to him. Says only reason he isn't lynching Merc right now is because of only one kill and because of the daykill was possibly vig/he doesn't know game setup yet. Quote THE GREAT DR @ 11/8/2017 0:50 Timmeh, suspects besides merc? Timmah I'm curious about Maddie, but it's entirely because of the way I'm reading the posts of a person or two. That's vague, but I'm not trying to pull a DS here. Otherwise, I don't have anyone solidly read as town or scum. It's early, things will start to shake out. (This stands out to me as it was after Zersch called out Maddie and asked for her Mafia team, then lynched her.) Asks more questions about Farlig's possible block. Timmah I can see some potential connections shaping up here. For one we have the Maddie vote - is she's not scum, then I'd have to question the originators of that and probably some of the people jumping on her. If she is, it looks to me as if a person or 2 has tried to distract from her lynch. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. The Merc survival and the potential interplay with farlig being blocked. There are several connections that could be made from this discussion based on how the 2 of them flip. Merc, answer my question please: do you know how you survived? Timmah While I am sympathetic to the idea that FE overreacts to a kill survivor (it happened to me 2 games in a row), Merc not answering any questions about it at all just keeps the question floating out there and adds to the confusion. At the very least we need some more information about it, otherwise it's just a distraction that mafia can use all game. (He seems to all but ignore Maddie and keep focus on Merc, then doesn't post again I guess until after Merc/Maddie were killed) D3: Says he was at the beach the previous day. Observes that Ahoda defended maddie and spin defended Merc. Asks what he missed. Asks if anyone got a note from Shadow. Says Shadow is either town or hex girl and thinks there are multiple mafia on Shadow's train. Vote count at time of this statement: Quote VOTE COUNT DAY 3 Shadow (11/13): Lamps, Mittens, Primate, Curtis, Jamie, DR, im, Ahoda, Spin, Christian Jamie (1/13): Mittens, Shadow DS (0/13): Spin Angi (0/13): Jamie Im317 (0/13): Curtis Herm (0/13): Brian In response to Spin post, I believe this part: "#3b) Tin-foil hat time -- DS was the mafia killer N2, but was jailed, preventing him from carrying out his action and silencing him for today. Would explain the lack of posting and the lack of a death, without having the town roleblocker visit him." Timmah says: "Don't want to quote spins post be ... wall o' text. But DS has been claiming to read me as town. Which has occurred exactly never. And gives me vibes." Lynches Ahoda Timmah ##lynch Ahoda Defended maddie. Lynching shadow. Acting indignant that I read him as mafia. I'm not sure what to do about shadow, so I'll park here for a minute while we continue talking. Timmah This is the thing, where did the other N1 kill go? If merc was mafia target, then did shadow target him also to get recruited as odd night sk? It's possible, but as primate said yesterday, I do not think that's what triggered merc' survival, based on thenwrite ups. The other options include inactive odd night SK (or someone who chose not to kill), farlig who was blocked by town (right?), or vic who was blocked by mafia (did I mix those 2 up?). So much for my spin sk suspicion. 9:44pm: Timmah The ease of this vote switch that I seem to have had a hand in starting makes me nervous... Rose unlynches Ahoda, lynches Shadow right after. VOTE COUNT DAY 3 Shadow (9/13): Lamps, Mittens, Primate, Curtis, Jamie, DR, im, Ahoda, Spin, Christian Ahoda (5/13): Timmah, Brian, Mittens, Dadd, Shadow, DR Jamie (0/13): Mittens, Shadow Mittens (1/13): Vic DS (0/13): Spin Angi (0/13): Jamie Im317 (0/13): Curtis Herm (0/13): Brian Shadow has been lynched. (Defends Shadow, FOS's DS, Lynches Ahoda, Calls out people on Shadow train as mafia) D4 Makes "I am town" statement for lie detector request Lynches Ahoda. Says he is his best guess for mafia for defending Maddie. Thinks Merc & Shadow lynches could be good to cross reference for potential mafia trying to look good for lynching scum too. Unlynches the next morning after Ahoda claims docs and says he didn't really need to claim. Lamps calls out Timmah & Christian for being so under the radar. Timmah says he's been beating the Ahoda drum so is not so under the radar. Calls out Curtis & im317 as adding to their lie detector statements as he got caught by adding words to it before. Adds that he waited for everyone to post before saying that. Agrees with Mittens that Lamps is stretching DS's post to say he blocked JJ. Adds that the only thing that gives him pause is DS saying he hinted as his role. Asks if he just made that up. 2:15pm: Dadd is killed (mod post) 2:27 pm: Timmah says no, Vig needs to kill Dadd to get some actual info from lynch count. (In response to Ahoda saying Vig needs to kill Jamie.) Timmah asks "what'd I miss" as a joke. Explains to Ahoda he said it because Dadd had already been killed by vig when he suggested it. Says he believes Jamie's claim. Asks if Christian has claimed. VOTE COUNT DAY 4 Jamie (8/11): TiB, Ahoda, Primate, Ben, im317, Curtis, Christian, DR, Farlig, Mittens Christian (6/11): Vic, JJ, DR, Ben, Lamps, Angi, Sock, Spin Mittens (2/11): Jamie, Sock Spin (0/11): Mittens Vic (0/11): Christian JJ (0/11): Lamps Ahoda (0/11): Timmah Dadd (0/11): JJ, Spin, Curtis, Ahoda Jamie has been lynched. (Defends Mafia, lynches town, suggests town be killed. It could look good that he suggested Dadd to be killed after not knowing he had already been killed and flipped since, as it makes him look like unaware townie but also it could be a ploy and wifom. Never lynches anyone else after unlynching Ahoda that day. Could look good as, even though he defended Jamie, he never voted Christian and the vote was pretty close. If he wasn't going to help lynch Christian to save Jamie, why bother defending him as mafia? Never cross references the Merc/Shadow trains as he suggests should be done.) D5 First post, asks if Brian has shot him in the 403 posts he's missed so far. asks for cliff notes. Says he was trying to catch up when last day ended. Admits his voting record hasn't been very good as he's been caught a couple of days not able to get back on before deadline. Responds to Vic in discussion of Miller claim being most convenient claim for scum (it's not :P ), says he remembers having a long drawn out discussion in a previous game as to whether a Miller would be told they are a Miller. A few minutes later, responds to Curtis lynching Christian for being a Miller with surprise that Christian claimed Miller. Explains he isn't to that point in his reading yet and is only at the point where Christian submits a name and may have something slightly beneficial happen to him. Says Christian's claim doesn't make sense, thinks he is scrambling and the claim has grown over time. Doesn't know why TIB was so worried earlier in the day with very little pressure (TIB was upset with himself about previous day's vote and was talking about claiming). 1:27pm Lists reads: Timmah I don't have a lot of reads right now - I'm not doing a very good job of meddling -I am not a fan of Christian's claim -I am not sure why TIB got so paranoid (perhaps he thought someone caught him killing ahoda?) -I don't read Curtis as town or scum, right now and have no idea where the almost mod-confirmed thing came from, other than Curtis said it himself -I missed the breadcrumbs left by the masons, but am not overly worried about it -I don't have a read one way or another on JJ right now either. You can put Angi, Ben, Primate, Sock, and a lot more people in this category for me. -I obviously trust Vic, Brian, and Zersch. I trust dr and spin too. I think I trust mittens based on some developments today. -I always read Lamps as scum for some reason. -I think I read im317 as scum earlier in the game, but don't remember why. -David? I am sure I missed some players. 1:52pm - Christian killed by Vig 5:18pm Says Lamps list is wrong about him (as scum) but says he's playing a great scum game, if only he were scum. 5:21pm Says he kinda wants to lynch Farlig. Lynches him. No reasoning. Jokes about it when asked why. Is surprised no one has tried to lynch him even though he's in their scum reads. Doesn't have a problem with Brian's kills. Thinks David should be killed. Defends the Christian kill as a question which needed to be answered. Questions Farlig, asks if he should lynch Sock instead. Ben claims Hider, Timmah says now he wants to lynch Ben, too. Keeps questioning Farlig. Asks Farlig who to lynch between Farlig, Sock, Ben. JJ suggests Timmah lynch, DR lynches Timmah, Curtis asks Timmah what he thinks. Timmah says if we lynch him to also state our second choice to lynch as mafia. Says he never likes a hider claim and thinks Sock could be GF. Reiterates to state our second choice if we lynch him. In response to JJ asking if he's claiming vengeful, says he's making a request. JJ says we could lynch David or Timmah could take him out, Timmah asks why JJ wants to lose two townies. JJ responds she doesn't know if David is a townie or if Timmah is vengeful but was answering Timmah's question re second choice to lynch. Timmah says it would be easier to say that in the first place. Says he prefers Sock lynch over Farlig. Asks how much time. Trusts people on Farlig lynch over people on Ben's lynch but doesn't know if he likes it. Holds breath. VOTE COUNT DAY 5 Farlig (6/10): Timmah, Curtis, DR, JJ, Mittens, Spin Ben (3/10): JJ, Lamps, Vic, im317, Angi David (2/10): Spin, TiB TiB (2/10): Sock, Primate Sock (1/10): Ben, Mittens Timmah (0/10): DR Angi (0/10): TiB Mittens (0/10): Sock, Spin Curtis (0/10): JJ Spin (0/10): Mittens Christian (0/10): DR, Curtis Farlig has been lynched. (Timmah looks pretty bad this day as he started Farlig lynch after giving reads without even mentioning Farlig, but I could see that as him going back and reading more then changing his mind. As mafia, I'd think he would be more calculating in setting up his FOS, then lynching. But this is all wifom of course :P . Looks very bad after saying he doesn't trust Ben's claim or Sock's claim but stays on Farlig lynch. Says it's because he trusts the people on Farlig more (Rose/Curtis). D6: Says he didn't like Farlig lynch but it's his fault for not stopping it. Explains again that he trusted people on Farlig lynch more. Casts shade on Vic: Timmah The Vic survival is confusing, but reminds me that we've had 2 town redirection roles flip so maybe Vic was blocked as Gf one of those nights we missed a kill be of a redirect? In response to Primate wondering if Brian will kill timmah, b, or himself today? Timmah says if Brian kills him it wastes his role and that if we want him out to lynch him and he'll take out 2nd scummiest person. Asks Ben if he dies if he hides behind scum (Ben had already answered this the day before). Lynches Ben when he says no. Says he would lynch Sock too and that is what we should've done yesterday. Timmah Top scum reads for me are Ben, sock, lamps and im317. I'm willing to bet there is scum that I trust or sort of trust - probably at least one of Curtis, jj or you (primate). I dunno about David and Vic confuses me right now. Side note: if Vic is somehow scum, scumittens lives up to his name as well Continues to talk about Ben's hider claim issues. Says he's drunk. Defends Farlig lynch again. Wants Brian to answer David question (kill David). Ben killed, flips scum. Then says some people he trusts are mafia. Timmah Guaranteed that one of these is mafia: Farlig (6/10): Timmah, Curtis, DR, JJ, Mittens, Spin Spin claims Mason (after mafia says masons exist), Vic vouched for mittens Explains to Rose about hider claim being a scum favorite but you have to say you die if you hide behind scum. Curtis says if it's someone on Farlig train it's Timmah or none of us. Timmah How so? 1, it's not me. 2, I was the sole vote on farlig for hours. Ben was leading until late. It wasn't me that swung that. Keeps defending Farlig lynch, says doesn't remember Farlig claiming when Primate says Timmah believed Farlig but stuck with his vote. Tells Lamps he's going down with him if he's lynched, then says JJ was the one who broke tie off of Ben. Brings up Sock as possible GF, suspicious of Vic again. Provides theory of mafia shooting and silencing their GF to prove innocence. Says "the mafia" on Farlig lynch is not him but either Curtis or JJ. Curtis reminds Timmah Vic was also blocked. He agrees it would be a deep play, then says his town read on Mittens is entirely due to Vic. Curtis points out Vic would have had to visit Ben to be silenced so he can't be GF. Timmah says down goes his theory. Asks to be lynched so he can enjoy his Sunday. Asks to confirm current list as who to take down with him: Socks, Lamps, asks who is next. Argues with Primate about his role. Says 75% have FOS'd him but only JJ lynched him, finds it interesting. Calls out Lamps. Doesn't like the "cleans" on Lamps's list, feels several have done nothing to suggest they're clean. 4 min later says he read back on Lamps posts and thinks he may actually be town. 6 min later: Timmah My scum list: Sock Angi JJ TiB Primate In about that order. Wild card goes to David. Timmah Would not lynch list: Brian Rose Vic Mittens (be of Vic) Zersch (less helpful lately than he started though) Spin Probably don't want to lynch Curtis Lamps Im317 Defends himself on his list changing, said he went back and did some research. Lynches Sock. Says he's not bomb. Says Lamps didn't dance off Ben lynch like JJ, Angi, Mittens. Wishes he was bomb. says let's wifom to JJ after she asks if he's that dumb. Says he's gone for most of the afternoon. Doesn't return. VOTE COUNT DAY 6 Sock (6/9): Ben JJ, Timmah, Curtis, Lamps, im317, Primate, Mittens David (2/9): Spin, JJ Lamps (1/9): DR Timmah (0/9): JJ, Primate Ben (0/9): Angi, Primate, Timmah Sock has been lynched. (Looks bad for explanation of why he stuck on Farlig lynch. Looks bad for casting shade on Vic as GF/Mafia due to survival. Looks bad for saying if there's scum on Farlig train it's either JJ or Curtis, then later completely ignoring Curtis in his suspicions. Suspicion on Lamps changes because he didn't get off Ben lynch but it was pointed out (by Rose or Curtis I think?) that Lamps wasn't around to get off the lynch.)

Conclusions:
D1 nothing stands out
D2 looks bad for focusing on Merc but kind of ignoring Maddie
D3 looks bad for going after Ahoda except said it was for defending Maddie, defending Jamie
D4 mixed, voted Ahoda before he claimed, defending Jamie but never lynched Christian to save Jamie
D5 looks bad for starting Farlig lynch without any reason, not trusting Ben or Sock claims but staying on Farlig lynch, pointing to people on Farlig lynch as the reason
D6 looks bad for going after Vic (who was probably silenced that day) as GF/Mafia, then dropping it when it's pointed out why Vic can't be Mafia; saying if someone on Farlig train is mafia it's JJ or Curtis then continuing FOS or JJ and ignoring Curtis (this is from my perspective that I know I'm town and feel Curtis could def be scum); looks bad for Sock vote